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Return of the Caskuda

Discussion in 'Combined Army' started by Diphoration, May 30, 2023.

  1. Robock

    Robock Well-Known Member

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    It make sense, but it is unfortunate for QK to have the Haqq Reinforcement share AVA with their own troops, while other sectorial gets their full AVA plus the full AVA of the Reinforcement's newly available QK troops. (Example, RTF is stuck with AVA3 on their infiltrating camo skirmisher; but now they can reinforce with Al-Hawwa, the QK version of an infiltrating camo skirmisher)
    Similar for Tunguska/Corregidor who gain an AVA 1 Lizard while keeping their full AVA of their in-house TAG; while Bakunin has to share his in-house AVA 1 TAG with the AVA 1 Reinforcement Lizard :disappointed_relieved: (Bakunin got Stigmata, it might be a small consolation)

    edit: hmm, i suppose Odaliske/Sekban are not in RTF Fireteam list. So at least in QK, in compensation for sharing AVA; you get to DropPod a whole fireteam (after paying 1 command token to form it) which is much better than in RTF.
     
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  2. Benkei

    Benkei Well-Known Member

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    Reinforcement troops have their own separate profiles, I doubt the AVA is shared
     
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  3. TAKEZO

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    That's crazy, these things were a pain, the sniper one gave me headaches on so many games!
     
  4. csjarrat

    csjarrat Well-Known Member

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    Warlord games had a range called beyond the gates of Antares. They had proper aliens, completely different to human anatomy. Sold like shit. Not much of a market for it, guessing it's the same here.
     
  5. psychoticstorm

    psychoticstorm Aleph's rogue child
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    I have said it many times (unfortunately) "starfish aliens" do not sell.
     
  6. DaRedOne

    DaRedOne Morat Warrior Philosopher
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    The problem with saying 'Starfish Aliens Don't Sell' is because each player has an individually biased viewpoint.

    "I play aliens, I spend money with aliens, so of course they sell". Without realizing there isn't enough of a fanbase to keep the faction/product afloat.

    I believe CA hit the sweet spot of just enough players to keep going despite being less played than say, Nomads. However, that's the exception. it's hard to have two alien factions, let alone 3.

    On the topic of the caskuda, I'm very much curious about how its rules interact with reinforcements. Because if it needs to be drop podded then explode makes no sense. On the other hand, if you can bring it down with explode and then also bring in the pod with 3-4 guys to feed orders to the bug, then hell yeah, rampage time.
     
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  7. colbrook

    colbrook Grenade Delivery Specialist

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    I think the most likely answer is that the Vanilla/Onyx profile has Combat Jump (Explode) but the Reinforcement profile does not.
     
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  8. psychoticstorm

    psychoticstorm Aleph's rogue child
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    Old Drones, old (1st edition) Gaki and Pretas, all old Exrah never sold in sufficient quantities even old Avatar was not a hot seller, and rules were not to blame for sure.

    New Drones, new hungries new Avatar sells far better than them, remains to see how the new Exrah will sell in the wider Community.

    When I say "starfish Aliens" do not sell I do not mean aliens like the Morats or the Shasvastii but Aliens than look outlandish like those old sculpts, Yes, the were great, yes, they were astonishing, but not enough people appreciate the outlandishness of the design.
     
  9. Barsik

    Barsik Well-Known Member

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    I think in this scenario reinforcement would be explode and Onyx/Vanila without.
    In “vanila” it will have more orders and thus can be too lethal.In reinforcement it would hit hard on arrival but would be limited by orders in its group and probably the range of deployment.
     
  10. colbrook

    colbrook Grenade Delivery Specialist

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    My thinking is that when it comes in via reinforcement it's not using Combat Jump, so the explosion doesn't trigger (and enemies can't ARO as its not an order), it's also limited to deploying in your board half which further reduces the utility.
     
  11. Barsik

    Barsik Well-Known Member

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    Indeed in reinforcement it will be in a droppod,my bad.So explode in “vanila” obvious.Defenetly Sphinx has competition in its spot.And I think it is great.Or there will be lists with both:see_no_evil:
     
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  12. DaRedOne

    DaRedOne Morat Warrior Philosopher
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    You realize I was agreeing with you, right? Just to be sure.

    Really depends on the profile. It seems to be very short ranged, so it will be useful punching out other reinforcements at least.
     
  13. psychoticstorm

    psychoticstorm Aleph's rogue child
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    :+1: Thought to further expand on it.
     
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  14. Stiopa

    Stiopa Trust The Fuckhead

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    Standard Cascuda...

    upload_2023-7-21_13-35-6.png

    ...and its Reinforcement variant:

    upload_2023-7-21_13-35-40.png

    Quite nice a CQB heavy hitter
     
  15. Nemo No Name

    Nemo No Name Aleph Cultural Atache

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    I think this is a flawed reasoning because Beyond the Gates sculpts were just awful. Like humans ones too.

    Not saying your overall argument isn't true... Tho Tyranids seem to be doing great.
     
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  16. DaRedOne

    DaRedOne Morat Warrior Philosopher
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    I am torn.

    I want to like it, but the fact the combat jump loses TA and that explosion is only DAM12 bother me.

    And that combi... Urgh. Yeah, it's strength 15, but only 3 shots... I'm not quite sure.
     
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  17. colbrook

    colbrook Grenade Delivery Specialist

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    TA won't work on the turn it comes in so I understand not having it to save points
     
  18. fari

    fari CRISTASOL, EL LIQUIDO DE LOS DIOSES

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    Space balans
     
  19. Triumph

    Triumph Well-Known Member

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    Both variants have it, just the combat jump one doesn't get to use it the turn it drops in.
     
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  20. Erbent

    Erbent Well-Known Member

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    I love how caskuda is basically a huge fraacta on crack, even if vulnerable to hacking. Not sure if BS attack +2DAM will end up applying to the explosion on a combat jump or not, and I wouldn't be surprised if caskuda gets a bokhtar treatment and will have an NCO instead of tac aware one release/some time later, a bit disappointed that other exrah will be reinforcement only units at least initially, would love to have a spammable 19 point engineer for my avatar but oh well, we can't have all the nive things all at the same time.
     
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