Gentlemen, I need someone to clarify to me how those two rules clarify. From a yesterday's game: A Jaguar goes after a pack (no longer a Fireteam, for the FT leader got shot to pices a moment earlier) of Unidron Batroids with his trusty Light Shotgun. Let's assume (for simplification) that both the Jaguar and one of the Batroids lose a Wound / Structure, and their respective players decide to engage Dogged state. Now, both are technically Unconscious (having lost their single W / STR point), keeping active thanks to being Dogged. Next Order, the Jaguar opens with his LSG again, and - should he receive one more Wound, he'll be dead as a dodo. But what about Batroid? Being G:Remote Presence (well, Autotool actually, but oit gets all the benefits of G:RP) it has 2 levels of Unconsciousness. Will losing 2nd STR point put it on the 2nd level of Unconscious, or being already in Doggedstate overrides G:Remote Presence, and make it cease to function completely...?
If you're already in Dogged, G: Remote Presence turns off, at least the "2nd unconscious level" part. You can only apply both when you fall from 1+ wounds straight to Unconscious-2.
So essentially you have to choose when you first enter the Unc state if you are going to go dogged or not. So, If a unidron batroid takes 1 wound in an order and goes to Unc1 it has to decide then if it wants to go dogged or forgo the rule. If a unidron batroid takes 2 wounds in a single order and goes to Unc 2 it has to decide then if it wants to go dogged or not. If a unidron batroid takes a wound in a single order goes Unc1 and activates dogged, then takes another wound in another order its a corpse. If it takes 1 wound in 1 order and goes Unc1 and chooses not to use dogged it cannot then use dogged if it takes another wound next order and goes Unc2. And if it takes 3 wounds in a single order its just a corpse.
I thought I had read on the old forums that Unc-2 was a new unconscious state, and as such, you could activate Dogged upon losing that second wound. Then again, I might have been hallucinating... sometimes happens with Infinity Rules :P.
Do you have a quote or something i can direct people to because that the last part is opposite to what i have been playing as. Which is if they go unc1 to unc2 they may use dogged. this means a dogged rem with remote presence has to take 3 wounds in 1 attack to cause him to perish. Otherwise he uses dogged and is still (relatively) fine.
How do V: Dogged and G: Remote Presence interact with each other? When a trooper that has both skills enters the Unconscious state for first time, the player controlling it has to choose which to use. If the player chooses to activate V: Dogged, the trooper will ignore the effects of the Unconscious state and enter the Dogged state. That means that the trooper will enter the Dead state at the end of the Turn, or if the trooper suffers a new wound before the Turn ends. If the player chooses to use G: Remote Presence, the trooper will suffer the effects of the Unconscious state, but will gain a second Unconscious level before entering the Dead state and it could be repaired meanwhile. If a trooper with G: Remote Presence and V: Dogged enters the second level of Unconsciousness, can he use Dogged? Yes, because V: Dogged can activate when the trooper entered the Unconscious state. Is it the same procedure with V: No Wound Incapacitation? Yes, because the activation is the same as V: Dogged. From the current FAQ, page 5: https://assets.infinitythegame.net/downloads/faqs/en/v1.3/faqs.pdf
http://infinitythewiki.com/en/Dogged Q: How do V: Dogged and G: Remote Presence interact with each other? A: When a trooper that has both skills enters the Unconscious state for the first time, the player controlling it has to choose which to use. Emphasis mine.
So if a model is Unconscious-1 and gets sent to Unconscious-2 then the model can absolutely enter dogged. The faq says as much and i quoted you,Stiopa, where it says so.
Not exactly; look at the first Q&A. You choose between G:RP or Dogged at the moment your unit enters Unconscious, either -1 or -2. If you're moving from -1 to -2 Dogged has been already ruled out by your earlier choice.
Only if they go straight to the second level from Conscious. If the unit is already Unconscious when they enter the second level of Unconsciousness it's too late to active dogged.
