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QK predictions/wishlist

Discussion in 'Haqqislam' started by HaqqHack, Oct 23, 2020.

  1. colbrook

    colbrook Black Fryer

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    Bear in mind that Rouhani can only join the Fireteam if both his Nasmats are Unconscious/Dead as the Peripheral skill prevents their controller from being part of a Fireteam.
     
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  2. sololobo

    sololobo Well-Known Member

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    Ah, good to know.
     
  3. HotFreshTofu

    HotFreshTofu Well-Known Member

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    Well, I guess that was my point. Your list is in need of a redesign or else you are going to get stomped. I am not trying to say "git gud", but I hope to give you some feedback which you can take into consideration. My intended tone is not condescension, but trying to share my experience with you, for the glory of Haqqislam.

    If you find this all irritating and patronizing, then feel free to ignore this, I won't be hurt. I'm just killing time lol.

    Janissary: Two Tinbots is over redundant and is simply a mistake. Two HMGs, you will find, will not help you. Yes, it is possible that your first HMG dies and is removed from the table without the chance of revival. Thats why you have Bill / Odalisque / Leila. The HMG helps you move up the table, but once you are close to the center, you can switch to the spitfire or bills rifle, or the AP rifle on one of the other Janissary.

    If you really wanna use two HMG, I can't say its a terrible choice, but in most games you will never even activate the second one. If you are very keen on the Janissary, how about this? I've tried to stay as close to your original list while giving you options to be more competitive


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    GROUP 1[​IMG] [​IMG] [​IMG]10
    JANISSARY Heavy Machine Gun / Pistol, Shock CC Weapon. (1.5 | 41)
    JANISSARY Heavy Machine Gun / Pistol, Shock CC Weapon. (1.5 | 41)
    JANISSARY AP Rifle, Light Shotgun ( | TinBot: Firewall [-3]) / Pistol, Shock CC Weapon. (0 | 35)
    ODALISQUE (360º Visor) Submachine Gun, Contender, Nanopulser ( ) / MULTI Pistol, PARA CC Weapon. (0 | 23)
    WILD BILL Rifle / MULTI Pistol(+1B), CC Weapon. (0 | 25)
    ROUHANI Submachine Gun, Flash Pulse / Pistol, CC Weapon. (0 | 21)
    NASMAT PARA CC Weapon(-3). (0 | 3)
    NASMAT PARA CC Weapon(-3). (0 | 3)
    HAFZA (Lieutenant) Rifle, Light Shotgun / Pistol, CC Weapon. (0 | 15)
    GHULAM (Number 2) Rifle, Light Shotgun, Panzerfaust / Pistol, CC Weapon. (0 | 13)
    GHULAM (Number 2) Rifle, Light Shotgun, Panzerfaust / Pistol, CC Weapon. (0 | 13)
    GHULAM Rifle, Light Shotgun / Pistol, CC Weapon. (0 | 11)

    GROUP 2[​IMG] [​IMG] [​IMG]4 [​IMG]1 [​IMG]1
    HAWWA' (Hacker, Hacking Device) Boarding Shotgun, D-Charges ( ) / Pistol, CC Weapon. (0.5 | 26)
    YUAN YUAN Chain Rifle, Smoke Grenades / Pistol, DA CC Weapon. (0 | 8)
    FANOUS REMOTE Flash Pulse / PARA CC Weapon(-3). (0 | 7)
    FANOUS REMOTE Flash Pulse / PARA CC Weapon(-3). (0 | 7)
    FANOUS REMOTE Flash Pulse / PARA CC Weapon(-3). (0 | 7)

    3.5 SWC | 299 Points

    Open in Infinity Army

    in this version you have the extra mind game of having the possible LT ghulam , while the hafza disguses as a panzerfaust or other type of ghulam.

    group 2 can now activate a specialist and do something with a single yuan yuan.



    tldr:
    needs more yuan yuan.
     
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  4. sololobo

    sololobo Well-Known Member

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    I recognized what you were trying to do last post and simply deflected, but should I escalate or educate? Lets go the educational route for now.

    Evangelizing your ascended knowledge in a condescending way is great way to stir the ire of your audience and elicit a response that is not desired. Even if the information you provided was actually good it’s not received well. Next time consider the approach a little more thoughtfully.
     
  5. QueensGambit

    QueensGambit SecUnit

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    It's a bad list. Can't blame the guy for pointing it out. He's not the one who came out of this with egg on his face.
     
  6. sololobo

    sololobo Well-Known Member

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    I think you have a bias. Where ever I post I can typically find you dropping in to state something negative about me. I’ll keep my eyes out for you too then. :)

    And, please back up your point where I am the only one to have egg on my face.
     
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  7. KedzioR_vo

    KedzioR_vo Well-Known Member
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    I feel like I'm in YuJing or PanO part of forum.
    That's not the way of Haqqislam, brothers - so make peace and let's destroy our enemies together ;)


    PozdRawiam / Greetings
     
  8. sololobo

    sololobo Well-Known Member

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    Agreed. I respect the infinity community too much to drag it down into GW forum levels out of self defense.

    @QueensGambit, shove it and keep moving. If you don’t have anything constructive to add don’t go looking for a problem unless you want one. As I’ve heard, a high fence makes a great neighbor. I’ll do the same. And, if you can’t leave well enough alone I have a private mail box.
     
  9. Freebootas

    Freebootas Active Member

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    Just want to say Infinity is always more about the player than the list.
     
  10. Papa Bey

    Papa Bey Clueless Wonder. Still.

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    @sololobo If I may ask, I understand this is a starter list. But do you always start out so simply?
     
  11. TriggerPuller9000

    TriggerPuller9000 Poverty Orde Wingate

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    Have to agree with this. But, by all means @sololobo record some batreps and tourney results, and show us the error of our ways of thinking - I'm open to the possibility of being wrong.
     
  12. Barrogh

    Barrogh Well-Known Member

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    Mostly because it's the player who makes the list.

    Well, jokes aside, piloting lists you bring is very important in this game, and I guess this is what that "it's not your list, it's you" means, but I feel that it should not be taken as "lists don't really matter", only as "lists alone won't carry you to victory".
     
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  13. Delta57Dash

    Delta57Dash Well-Known Member

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    > Says he won’t drag the forums down and agrees to make peace
    > Immediately contradicts this by telling someone to shove off and don’t go “looking for a problem”

    Good job bud.

    For the record, I agree with most of the people here. Your list isn’t good and you’d be wise to check that ego at the door. You wanted feedback and you got accurate feedback. Maybe you should consider listening to it.
     
  14. Freebootas

    Freebootas Active Member

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    I mean lists don't really matter very much in infinity. As long as you have some specialists. I have always had success just bringing units I think look cool.
     
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  15. Papa Bey

    Papa Bey Clueless Wonder. Still.

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    Living up to our reputation today, I see.
     
  16. costi

    costi New Member

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    Is it just me, or did Scarface become rather pricy?
     
  17. Cannon Fodder

    Cannon Fodder Well-Known Member

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    I agree, one aspect I liked about him was that he was a cheap tag. Something big on the table to draw attention away from my fireteam. The N3 version was cheap enough that you only needed to trim a little bit out of your army to fit him in while keeping a decent fire team and enough specialists. Now its a matter of building around him and either going light on the fireteam, or light on specialists.
     
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  18. Capo.Paint

    Capo.Paint Well-Known Member

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    I feel that the Iguana took his place for the cheap distraction. Of course, he is not that sturdy, but he has an HFT for close engagegements and in cover still have arm 9. Put him in suppressive fire somewhere and the TAG-job is done.

    Scarface on the other hand now is a full TAG. All loadouts are equipped well and since he isn't frenzy anymore, he stays in good shape longer now. The big problem of being shredded in CC is mitigated by his stats, so that he can deal with most CC specialists on his own. So he is your guy if you need a more or less reliable big gun. Especially the alpha-loadout is difficult to remove, once he reached a good position.
    What bothers me in QK is the fact, that I need to take an expensive Wip 13 engineer, while I can take a cheaper Najjarun with better Wip...So in most cases I may end up with the Iguana and no need for an engineer, if I don't want to invest in a TAG-list.
     
  19. sololobo

    sololobo Well-Known Member

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    Eh, I’m trying to design several lists that play differently. QK seems to run HI rather well, so I took a stab at when I thought I saw some lists being throw around. Why not? No mission was selected or enemy faction. But, now? Nah. lol I’ll just keep those reserved and learn on my own.

    I did get feed back. I listened. Some feed back was respectful and some was not. The respectful feedback resulted in two changes in range bands and more specialists. The non-respectful feed back was ignored then lectured to.

    For the record I think your point of view is wrong, and I disagree with some of the people on here. lol Ego? No. Would ego alter a list? You mean self respect. Maybe you should read all of the posts and not the ones you chose to. But, prove me wrong and layout the case detailing my hubris.