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Pressing buttons missions. Who?

Discussion in 'Yu Jing' started by siri, Aug 27, 2018.

  1. siri

    siri Well-Known Member

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    Hi guys.
    Im having a little problem in pressing buttons missions.
    Generally I have used in ISS a Wu Ming core, Just to have a high defense and a heavy offensive A-turn.

    My problem is when I have a push button mission.
    Normally I saw chasseurs, SAS, and other low cost infiltrators with camo do the job.
    I normally have a good 2 turn, when I use my HMG to discover/shoot to take them down, but I lack the orders to take them down and then move to push buttons.

    Any ideas of good lists with specialist ?

    Thanks
     
  2. ObviousGray

    ObviousGray Frenzied Mushroom

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    Ninja or Tiger Paramedic.
     
  3. Spleen

    Spleen Well-Known Member

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    Take more Kuang Shi?

    This is the answer to most problems with ISS.
     
  4. Triumph

    Triumph Well-Known Member

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    Can't take tigers in ISS
     
  5. Ben Kenobi

    Ben Kenobi Well-Known Member

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    Post your one of your usual list here, perhaps we can figure out, what is wrong with it.
     
  6. Maksimas

    Maksimas Heavy Infantry Addict Maxim

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    A Zhanying specialist to tag along with your Wu Ming core is one way to drag a specialist up the board.
    Another way is to use a Ninja and/or some Kanren.
    Surprisingly enough, there is a decent enough argument for having some REMs do all the button pushing for you: While Weibings and Dakini Paramedics might not seem like ideal button pushers, what with lacking marker states and skills that'd allow them to deploy partway up the table, but... they are fast and they do have WIP 13. And they don't cost too much: 16 for a Weibings and 15 for a Dakini.
    Also, I hear CSUs are pretty decent for cheap button pushing in ISS.
     
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  7. Space Ranger

    Space Ranger Well-Known Member

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    I really liked a Zhanying Hacker with the Wu Ming. He’s even better with the Tin Bot Wu Ming. But I really recommend that when going against other hacker armies. You can do the same with the TinBot Hsien.

    Against non-Hacker armies like the Zhanying with Mad Traps and use the Wu Ming FO for the specialist. The Mad traps are nice to put close to that camo troop and as soon as he tries to do something the Mad Trap gives a loving hug. Also, that Zhanying has Sensor! Great for revealing those camo troops before getting to them.

    The Dakini Medic has been very useful with their fast movement and mimetisim too. Not to mention he can get to a target and then go into Suppression fire.

    Another one to help counter the camo is the Weibing FO Remote. Sensor, Sniffers, Sat-Lock, 6-4 Move, what’s not to love? One thing to note on that, which I forget all the time, that bot has a Deactivator in case those pesky camo troops leave some mines around.

    Speaking of fast, I love the Sophotech in ISS. It’s almost an auto-take. You need to be careful with it. It’s NOT a killer itself. All of its points are in it being WIP 15 Doc/Eng with NWI.

    I’d like to experiment more with the EVO in ISS. So far I like it in Ikari but for different reasons. I need it for TeamPro and the +3 to Combat Jump. But there’s a lot of things it can help with.
    • It waves the -6 to Sat-Lock. Which make your Weibing even better! Not only discover those camo troops but target them as well!
    • The +3 to combat jump is good for the Garuda of course.
    • TeamPro of course is good for your link teams.
    • Against other hackers, the Kaleidoscope can make the Zhanying Hacker even better because of TinBot B. Which is NOT a firewall. Meaning any hacking against the Zhanying will be at -9! Kaleidoscope -3, TinBot B -6, = -9. This has given me an idea of using a Duo of Shang-Ji. TinBot B with Assault Hacker. -9 for any hacking against him with the EVO and he has a 6 BTS as well. OR using Fairy Dust instead so the enemy is -9 to get hacked & +3 to BTS.
    • Also, if you are unlucky, it allows a re-roll of any hacking program if you spend a command token to do it.
    • Overclock is okay. I’ve only used it once on a Rui Shi and it didn’t help much.
    • If going second, and you spend a command token, you can start the game with any Gadget-program running. Assisted fire or Team Pro are the ones that come to mind first. Being able to start a game with Assisted Fire on a TR HMG bot is fantastic I think. (Edit: as mentioned below, it's any GADGET-EVO program.)
    Edit: oh and another thing! the EVO has Baggage to resupply those MadTraps!
     
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  8. Shinen

    Shinen Well-Known Member

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    Sorry, no:

    The player who has the second Player Turn may spend a Command Token to deploy one troop with the EVO Hacking Device with one GADGET-EVO Supportware Hacking Program active.
     
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  9. Space Ranger

    Space Ranger Well-Known Member

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    Ok got it. It's GADGET-EVO program. Still, I've used it for TeamPro which is that but it's needed for Ikar links.
     
  10. Styx

    Styx Cat.IE~~

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    Always Ninja killer hacker profile... also a couple Kanren: madtrap profile+FO or killer hacker. Best choices for ISS as a free midtable specialist.
     
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  11. siri

    siri Well-Known Member

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    [​IMG] Imperial Service──────────────────────────────────────────────────[​IMG]10 [​IMG]1[​IMG] WÚ MÍNG MULTI Rifle + Light Grenade Launcher / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 39)[​IMG] WÚ MÍNG HMG / Pistol, Knife. (2 | 39)[​IMG] WÚ MÍNG Boarding Shotgun + 1 TinBot B (Deflector L2) / Pistol, Knife. (0.5 | 33)[​IMG] WÚ MÍNG (Forward Observer) Boarding Shotgun / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 31)[​IMG] WÚ MÍNG (Fireteam: Duo) Chain Rifle, Submachine Gun / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 25)[​IMG] SOPHOTECT Combi Rifle, D-Charges / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 31)[​IMG] YUDBOT Electric Pulse. (0 | 3)[​IMG] CELESTIAL GUARD (Kuang Shi Control Device) Combi Rifle + Light Smoke Grenade Launcher / Pistol, Knife. (0.5 | 13)[​IMG] CELESTIAL GUARD (Forward Observer) Boarding Shotgun / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 13)[​IMG] KUANG SHI Chain Rifle / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 5)[​IMG] SUN TZE Lieutenant (Advanced Command) MULTI Rifle, 2 Nanopulsers, Flash Pulse / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 65)[​IMG] YUDBOT Electric Pulse. (0 | 3) 3 SWC | 300 PointsOpen in Infinity Army


    This is my regular list.
     
  12. Borlois

    Borlois Yu Jing Imperial Service Agent

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    Wu Ming are good troops, but they are mean for attacking mission or section control. Of course they can be used in switch missions, but moving them to every objective can be dangerous and you will spend to much orders for it. (Perhaps only missions which is only 1 central switch?).
    Like @Styx has said, Ninja KHD, Kanren KHD or FO, even Yaokong Weijing or a Dakini San can we an option.
     
  13. Borlois

    Borlois Yu Jing Imperial Service Agent

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    [​IMG] ISS Infiltration Squad──────────────────────────────────────────────────[​IMG]10 [​IMG] NINJA Hacker (Disp. Hacker Asesino) Arco Táctico / Pistola, Arma CC DA, Cuchillo. (0 | 29)[​IMG] KǍNRÈN Fusil Combi, Chain-colt, MadTraps / Pistola, Arma CC Monofilo, Cuchillo. (0 | 28)[​IMG] KǍNRÈN Hacker (Disp. de Hacker de Asalto) Fusil Combi, Chain-colt / Pistola, Arma CC Monofilo, Cuchillo. (0.5 | 32)[​IMG] SOFOTECTO Fusil Combi, Cargas-D / Pistola, Cuchillo. (0 | 31)[​IMG] YUDBOT Pulso Eléctrico. (0 | 3)[​IMG] YUDBOT Pulso Eléctrico. (0 | 3)[​IMG] AGENTE IMPERIAL GRULLA (Visor X) Spitfire, 2 Nanopulsers / Pistola, Arma CC DA. (2 | 54)[​IMG] AGENTE IMPERIAL GRULLA (Sensor, Visor X) Fusil MULTI, 2 Nanopulsers / Pistola, Arma CC DA. (0 | 52)[​IMG] GUARDIA CELESTIAL Hacker (Disp. Hacker) Fusil Combi / Pistola, Cuchillo. (0.5 | 21)[​IMG] GUARDIA CELESTIAL (Disp. Control de Kuang Shi) Fusil Combi + Lanzagranadas Lig. Humo / Pistola, Cuchillo. (0.5 | 13)[​IMG] GUARDIA CELESTIAL Teniente Fusil Combi / Pistola, Cuchillo. (0 | 13)[​IMG] RUI SHI Spitfire / Pulso Eléctrico. (1 | 20) 4.5 CAP | 299 PuntosAbrir en Infinity Army

    This is meant to control and switch missions.
    Ninja and Kanrens can activate consoles/Antennas/panoplias.
    While our Crane Agents can control cons/ant/pan too. Also they are very dangerous, especially the spitfire.
    Sophotec for his medic/engineer skills (also for classified missions)
    The Ruishi is a MSV L2. Really useful against camos, mim, ddo and to. We can upgrade with marksmam L2 thanks to our celestial hacker, if you want to attack.
     
  14. Dasta

    Dasta New Member

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    Made an account just to reply to this thread.

    So first off, a Core Fireteam of Wu Ming is up to 4 Wu Ming and 1 Zanying Imperial Agent. Meaning you have too many Wu Ming and you're missing your Agent. So unless I'm missing something super obvious, one of those Wu's gotta go so an Agent can fit.

    Secondly, I haven't been playing super long so my word isn't gospel, but I've found that a Core Fireteam on a 10 order list is hard to manage. There's not enough orders to maneuver them and do other stuff.
    Yes the Ninja is excellent at taking objectives. But until it comes out as a token, your orders are down to 9 now.
    Also we have Kuang Shi. The most abusable 5 point order ever. Put 4 of them in a Core to start instead of the Wu Ming, boom. 4 impetuous orders negated. 33 point link team provides 5 orders for only 0.5 SWC. Need more space for other units? Make it a 4-Man core.

    The Pain Train is some nasty fun, but its primary goal is to beat the **** out of people. If you plan to take it, maybe think about taking 2 combat groups. A pain train with some Kuang Shi batteries, and then a second group to press buttons.
    For 10 orders, your soloists will be much more useful. Su-Jian to kill, Ninja to button, Hsien for long range, etc.

    Ninjas are bloody excellent though. I've started taking them way more often once I learned how abusive sneak attack is with them.
     
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  15. colbrook

    colbrook Grenade Delivery Specialist

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    Wu Ming have both Core and Special Core so you can have 5 or 4+Zhanying.

    http://infinitythewiki.com/en/List_of_Fireteams#Imperial_Service
     
  16. Dasta

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  17. Borlois

    Borlois Yu Jing Imperial Service Agent

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    [​IMG] ISS 15 orders──────────────────────────────────────────────────GRUPO 1[​IMG] [​IMG] [​IMG]10 [​IMG]4[​IMG] SÙ-JIÀN Spitfire, Lanzallamas Lig. Panzerfaust / Pistola Pesada, Cuchillo. (2 | 59)[​IMG] SOFOTECTO Fusil Combi, Cargas-D / Pistola, Cuchillo. (0 | 31)[​IMG] YUDBOT Pulso Eléctrico. (0 | 3)[​IMG] YUDBOT Pulso Eléctrico. (0 | 3)[​IMG] RUI SHI Spitfire / Pulso Eléctrico. (1 | 20)[​IMG] GUARDIA CELESTIAL (Disp. Control de Kuang Shi) Fusil Combi + Lanzagranadas Lig. Humo / Pistola, Cuchillo. (0.5 | 13)[​IMG] KUANG SHI Chain Rifle / Pistola, Cuchillo. (0 | 5)[​IMG] KUANG SHI Chain Rifle / Pistola, Cuchillo. (0 | 5)[​IMG] KUANG SHI Chain Rifle / Pistola, Cuchillo. (0 | 5)[​IMG] KUANG SHI Chain Rifle / Pistola, Cuchillo. (0 | 5)[​IMG] GUARDIA CELESTIAL Teniente Fusil Combi / Pistola, Cuchillo. (0 | 13)[​IMG] Yaókòng CHAĪYÌ Pulso Flash, Sniffer / Pulso Eléctrico. (0 | 8)GRUPO 2[​IMG] [​IMG] [​IMG]5 [​IMG] GUARDIA CELESTIAL Hacker (Disp. Hacker) Fusil Combi / Pistola, Cuchillo. (0.5 | 21)[​IMG] KǍNRÈN (Observ. de Artillería) Escopeta de Abordaje, Chain-colt / Pistola, Arma CC Monofilo, Cuchillo. (0 | 26)[​IMG] NINJA Hacker (Disp. Hacker Asesino) Arco Táctico / Pistola, Arma CC DA, Cuchillo. (0 | 29)[​IMG] KǍNRÈN Fusil Combi, Chain-colt, MadTraps / Pistola, Arma CC Monofilo, Cuchillo. (0 | 28)[​IMG] Yaókòng HÙSÒNG Ametralladora / Pulso Eléctrico. (1 | 25) 5 CAP | 299 PuntosAbrir en Infinity Army

    There's another option. 15 orders.
    The Su Jian perhaps will use only 8 if our adversaries use a token to take us 2 orders.
    The second group is just to take the objectives.
    We have 3 punches:
    Su Jian / Riu Shi / Yaokong Husong.
     
  18. Section9

    Section9 Well-Known Member

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    Dakini Paramedic. 6-4MOV with Mimetism.
     
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  19. AdmiralJCJF

    AdmiralJCJF Heart of the Hyperpower

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    I mean, you can put a specialist into the core, and run 19 orders including a couple of Dakini Paramedics and a Ninja KHD.

    That seems pretty solid.
     
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  20. Section9

    Section9 Well-Known Member

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    Wait, when did Dakini become AVA2 in Imperial Service?!? They didn't used to be!
     
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