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Played Druze for first time on tournament

Discussion in 'Druze Bayram Security' started by Greg, Sep 30, 2019.

  1. Greg

    Greg Member

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    Ahoj here!

    Not so much live in Druze section of this forum, so let me share my experience with Druze from last weekend. Couple of weeks ago a started building Druze army - like the fluf, always fan of mercs and even rules wise found few options in the list which makes me want to try them (guided ammo with link bonuses; hidden deploy with smoke + msv2 snipers; EM LGL ... ) and also from hobby part a lot of options for conversion or using many nice models for count-as/proxy (including Outrage).

    Then I played just 2 practice games with them and directly jump to 5 round ITS tournament with almost 30 participants - Pragalactica tournament located in Prague Czech Republic.

    My two lists here:
    Sniper nest
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    GROUP 1[​IMG] [​IMG] [​IMG]9 [​IMG]1
    BRAWLER (Multispectral Visor L2) MULTI Sniper / Pistol, Knife. (1.5 | 28)
    BRAWLER (Multispectral Visor L2) MULTI Sniper / Pistol, Knife. (1.5 | 28)
    BRAWLER Doctor (MediKit) Rifle + Light Shotgun / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 20)
    DRUZE Lieutenant (X Visor) Combi Rifle, Chain-colt / Viral Pistol, Knife. (0 | 23)
    DRUZE (X Visor) Combi Rifle + Light Grenade Launcher (E/M and Nimbus) / Viral Pistol, Knife. (0.5 | 27)
    SCARFACE & CORDELIA TURNER undefined. (1.5 | 78)
    [​IMG] SCARFACE 2 Mk12, Heavy Rocket Launcher / AP CCW. (1.5 | 61)
    [​IMG] SCARFACE Boarding Shotgun / Pistol, CCW. ()
    [​IMG] CORDELIA TURNER Combi Rifle, Chain-colt, D-Charges / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 17)
    FUGAZI DRONBOT Flash Pulse, Sniffer / Electric Pulse. (0 | 8)
    SAITO TOGAN (Specialist Operative) Combi Rifle, Smoke Grenades / Pistol, EXP CCW, Knife. (0 | 40)
    HUNZAKUT (Forward Observer, Deployable Repeater) Rifle + Light Shotgun, Antipersonnel Mines / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 18)

    GROUP 2[​IMG] [​IMG] [​IMG]1 [​IMG]2
    FUGAZI DRONBOT Flash Pulse, Sniffer / Electric Pulse. (0 | 8)
    HUNZAKUT (Forward Observer, Deployable Repeater) Rifle + Light Shotgun, Antipersonnel Mines / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 18)
    WARCOR (360º Visor) Flash Pulse / Stun Pistol, Knife. (0 | 3)

    5 SWC | 299 Points

    Open in Infinity Army


    and

    Cliper team
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    GROUP 1[​IMG] [​IMG] [​IMG]8 [​IMG]1
    CLIPPER DRONBOT Smart Missile Launcher / Electric Pulse. (1.5 | 18)
    DRUZE Lieutenant (X Visor) Combi Rifle, Chain-colt / Viral Pistol, Knife. (0 | 23)
    DRUZE (X Visor) Combi Rifle + Light Grenade Launcher (E/M and Nimbus) / Viral Pistol, Knife. (0.5 | 27)
    VALERYA GROMOZ Hacker (Hacking Device UPGRADE: Expel) Combi Rifle + Pitcher / Pistol, Knife. (0.5 | 21)
    BRAWLER Engineer Rifle + Light Shotgun, D-Charges / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 20)
    SCARFACE & CORDELIA TURNER undefined. (1.5 | 78)
    [​IMG] SCARFACE 2 Mk12, Heavy Rocket Launcher / AP CCW. (1.5 | 61)
    [​IMG] SCARFACE Boarding Shotgun / Pistol, CCW. ()
    [​IMG] CORDELIA TURNER Combi Rifle, Chain-colt, D-Charges / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 17)
    HUNZAKUT (Forward Observer, Deployable Repeater) Rifle + Light Shotgun, Antipersonnel Mines / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 18)
    PATHFINDER DRONBOT Combi Rifle, Sniffer / Electric Pulse. (0 | 16)

    GROUP 2[​IMG] [​IMG] [​IMG]3 [​IMG]1
    PEACEMAKER Spitfire + AUXBOT_3 / Electric Pulse. (1 | 27)
    [​IMG] AUXBOT_3 Heavy Flamethrower / Electric Pulse. (- | 4)
    PATHFINDER DRONBOT Combi Rifle, Sniffer / Electric Pulse. (0 | 16)
    PATHFINDER DRONBOT Combi Rifle, Sniffer / Electric Pulse. (0 | 16)
    HUNZAKUT (Forward Observer, Deployable Repeater) Rifle + Light Shotgun, Antipersonnel Mines / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 18)

    5 SWC | 298 Points

    Open in Infinity Army


    In first game played agains Varuna - mainly two OOD spitfire remotes, 5 man link with HMG guy, ... . unfortunately completely screwed up deployment - forget to put some models to prone, including Lt. and after really bloody first turn there wasn't so much to do in rest of the game. so 0:10 and I knew this is going to be less competitive from and more to lets have fun for rest of the weekend.

    Second game Acquisition against CA (mostly with Shas and camos). Peacemaker and his buddy went for quite nice alfa strike on first turn, later there were some guided missiles and EM LGL raining from the sky, so quite big casualties on CA side and at the end manage to control more objectives, so big win for Druze here.

    Last game of day one was Supplies agains Aleph (proxies, Atalanta, Phoenix, Machaon, nagas, dart ...). I took the list with MSV2 snipers since I was expecting ODD and camos. he deployed first and deploy phoenix which force to deploy little bit more securely my snipers, well most of my deployment was affected by him since Phoenix has quite nice view over the table. then his reserve model was Atalanta with even better view on my snipers :( little bit shoot out in first turn with a result of my snipers down, in my turn I was successful with some EM grenades, mostly for revealing camos and disabling mines. and Scarface went for heroic rampage. In this game I really discovered how amazing weapon loadout he has - option to choose either for HRL or 2x MK12 is amazing. He killed about 5 model just with few orders, well some of them were proxies but when my opponent start counting orders for second turn something wasn't right and we discovered that he messed with his list, and deployed Phoenix as a 11th model, which should not be there. since he didn't do any damage in the game yet with him, I was ok to just remove him yes we can speculate how would my deployment looks like without him, but for that moment we continue to play. At the end we were draw on objectives but I had one classified more. So small win for Druze here.

    Forth game Fronline agains o12. I started, EMLGL did well, Smart ML did well, Scarface did well. Couple of my models Hanza, Peacemaker, Scarface got glued, but thanks to Cordelia Scarface was just fine an order later. thanks to EMLGL his visible Lt. (stratageros skill) got isolated so he had firs turn in LoL. next turn my second Hanz just went on trip and clean up his backfield from all cheerleaders and 8pts bots ;) I knew there is some surprise for the last turn on his side to show up and hold some area and yes! here comes nothing less then Goldstein ;) but he just went for fire-fight with Cordelia and she in cover with minetism was simply un-hitable for him and even more she killed him. She had tile 2-3 moments in whole tournament when she really surprised me. o12 had only 2 models left then and not enough to control any area, so nice big win for Druze.

    Last game Capture and Protect agains Aleph and what a game! simply just Achilles with a lot of cheerleaders. And Garuda. Oh my god Garuda with spitfire, he/she successfully landed just behind all my units, not being seen by anybody and I got really f**k-up feelings here. but he manage to kill only one flash pulse bot, then went for Cordelia but he was inside 8", probably thanks to short range and to her mines she luckily won her change face agains burs 4 spitfire and in next try she even kill him! what a heroic. Then Achilles went for killing scarface, tooks him few orders but he did. then go for snipers, first he decided to try flash pulse one of them with his Warcore - he thought is just worth to try since its warcore, and do not care eve if he dies, as he did, but what he didn't expected was Saito Togan nearby snipers and creating smoke over them. that completely stoped Achiles from continuing in his rampage. Only way for him to avoid it was to move back and try to get to my objective from completely other side. It tooks him few cautions movement to get him to better position for stealing run on next turn. I knew if I isolate/immobilise Achilles game is mine, to I spend almost all my orders this turn just to LGL him, with a flat 6 rolls, but out of around seven-eight attempts I didn't roll any single 6 or less :facepalm: and when he success dodge he even move closer to objective. Next turn he move for objective, kill Cordelia and Hanza on the way and move back up to his DZ - nice! I tried couple of EM again but again not any single 6 or less. But at least as one his successful dodges he move place where I can see him with one of my snipers if I move a bit. So my sniper move on the roof to clear view on him and hits all 3 shots and he fail all 3 saves! wow. with my last 3 orders I start preparing better position for my Saito and link team to run for his objective in last turn. What I completely forget in my euphory of killing him, that he has a doctor and after spanding few orders he gets to Achilles and heel him! f**k! Ok my last turn and this was so amazing, or how we say in infinity - cinematic! Saito Togan run for objective, smoke it out, and grab it. - 2 order left.... my thinking: I failed so many EM rolls agains him there needs to be a karma somewhere! so one more try and I roll 1! he dodging and roll 20! boom! last order Saito moves out of smoke only to see immobilised Achilles, gives him a burs from his combi and Achilles failed one or two! So another big win for Druze literally with the last dice!

    And such results ware enough for second place in tournament :p

    I am really impressed by Druze. few more facts:
    - even two real Druze in my lists are there just because they have to for fireteam compositions to get EMLGL, but their combis with Xvisor, and viral pistols and fatality1, they are good if they get into firefight or have stand up for defending position for the last turn or something.
    - Cordelia os for removing adhesive or immobilisations (succeeded 2 from 2), not for repairing (failed 1 from 1).
    - Scarface - his load out is close to ideal on TAG
    - in both games where I had Clipper, I managed to forward observed what I needed and then be devastating with Guided ammunition (I don't remember if I saw somebody play guided since N3)
    - probably no need to mention here, but still EM LGL is amazing, and every game there was valid target for it. + Medium infantry + x-visor = thats what I imagine for Mercenaries sneaky way of fighting ;)
     
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  2. Marduck

    Marduck Well-Known Member

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    Very nice feed back.

    Don't you feel it would have been better to have Cordelia as a solo piece and a few bots to help her repair all these drones ?

    Makes me want to try druze some time.
     
  3. Greg

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    Maybe, but in my eyes its more like she is a bot for Scarface ;) even if some other remote get destroyed and I want to repair, Scarface moves closer and shooting all obstacles until Cordelia gets to b2b to fix the bot ;) In future I will probably still play her in duo, get her to some good positions and suppress her there and for rest of the game use just Scarface solo.
     
  4. roobot

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    Fantastic write up man! A very interesting read! And congratulations on doing so well!
     
  5. sorniak

    sorniak Well-Known Member

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    eeeem....you're calling e\m lgl amazing, but in last game you've spend like 8+ orders on it without any success, only at the end of the game it did smth... eeem... I'm confused. Your last game won luck, not some "special" druze powers.
    Also... how scarface is great vs faction with lots of ODD/TO and having no DTW - lucky shots come to my mind...again...? I had an opposite experience with scarface, once he could'nt kill bandit with adhl ;( another time he tried to conquer middle of table and was stopped by one HI with bs14...4 dice couldn't beat one die through several orders.
    I don't doubt you skills sir, but I'm not sure you've made right conclusions about druze sectorial performance ..
     
  6. Greg

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    Hi sorniak, I see your points, and now thinking about it, maybe I was just still on euphory when writing down this post. and yes you correct, in last game EMLGL cost me dozens of orders, but I also use it in other games, maybe except the one and there it was always much faster. also doing it just on 6s is the worst case scenario and I always tried to forward observe first (did twice during tournament), or just bring Druze guy closer to shoot for 9s or 12s ... this just didn't work in last game. Ad Scarface, yes going agains ODD or TO is probably the worst option for him which I always tried to avoid, either try to get the target out of cover or target another nearby guy with option to hit other guy too (there was few situations like this during the tournament). At the end I didn't wanted to say druze are the best army in the game, I just want to say I was impressed by them, maybe most with variety of options they have or my lists provide me on the field. And yes last game was won by lucky dice. but thats still a game we all play ;)
     
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    sorry for misunderstanding, and my intention wasn't to be offensive...
     
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  8. Cthulhu363

    Cthulhu363 Well-Known Member

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    I love playing with Druze. They are flexible and have all the tools you need. Congrats on your victories!
     
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