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Discussion in 'Access Guide to the Human Sphere' started by Belgrim, Dec 4, 2017.

  1. Sabin76

    Sabin76 Well-Known Member

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    Pulled from the Engage thread because it's relevant I guess.

     
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  2. xagroth

    xagroth Mournful Echo

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    Well... they are mostly the same thing, one with a pilot inside and the other with... I would have made some sort of parasitic thingie, the Staldron is, like the Karkata, not very easy to fit inside the chassis XD

    You know... I see little difference between one and the other. Aside from one using T2 swords and the other some sort of xyphos and heavy armor, that is... :tearsofjoy::joycat:
     
  3. DruidNei

    DruidNei Well-Known Member

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    This is such a simple and brilliant idea. Slave Drone - like parasite creature would be so fitting.
     
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  4. xagroth

    xagroth Mournful Echo

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    Shame the Slave Drones are no longer sold as a blister, and you can only place a single Dr Worm across all EC "options" -.-U

    I pray for the release of a S1 box/Blister with miniworms, krazykoalas, madtraps and a common servitor (YJ's are quite interesting, since they are a single piece, like the worms).
     
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  5. Belgrim

    Belgrim Well-Known Member

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    No
     
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  6. sgthulka

    sgthulka Well-Known Member

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    The physique score is really inconsistent. Yojimbo needs a freaking bionic arm to justify PHYS 14, despite the fact he's in a lhost, and Tarik needs giant size and super serum, but Ariadnans and Yuan Yuan (as someone else pointed out) just have to work out, bro. I agree, in general, with Mahtamori's point that the only reasonable explanation is genetic manipulation, either intentionally during first contact with the Tohaa or accidentally over a few generations with the Tohaa-created antipodes. But that doesn't explain all the non-Ariadnan inconsistencies with PHYS.
     
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  7. daboarder

    daboarder Force One Commander
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    nah yeah
     
  8. Flipswitch

    Flipswitch Sepsitorised by Intent

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    the only thing caledonians brought was irn bru which is what they thrive off for super ripped gains of +PH

    they did not bring the lower life expectancy with them from the UK
     
  9. toadchild

    toadchild Premeasure

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    Morat players have frequently remarked on the surprisingly low PH value of Suryats.
     
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  10. daboarder

    daboarder Force One Commander
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    its a mechanic thing we can all agree surely
     
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  11. the huanglong

    the huanglong Well-Known Member

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    I wish unaugmented human statlines would get brought into line. PH14 on CHA warbands and Yuans is over the top.
     
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    Hecaton EI Anger Translator

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    Warbands in general have statlines that are too good, obvs.
     
  13. Mahtamori

    Mahtamori Well-Known Member

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    Warbands in general have a problem that they need to get up in points to not completely and utterly break down.

    Unifying human and Morat (separately) stats would be neat, and then assigning some basic logic to what stats they end up with. Get put into powered armour? 13. Get put into good powered armour or have serious training in powered armour? 14, maybe even 15. Keeping fit? 10 Trained? 11 Well trained? 12. Training is your religion, food, hobby and work? 13. Drugs? Sacrifice social adaptability, virility, life expectancy and eye sight for glorious gains in PH!
     
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  14. the huanglong

    the huanglong Well-Known Member

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    I support common sense stats. The run of 14s and over in a 6 point galwegian statline is ridiculous. Does he really have the mental fortitude and bravery of a Haqqislam military doctor, or did they just want him to be good at hoovering up midfield camo in addition to everything else?

    I love this game, I love balance but I want the stats and special abilities to represent the unit description faithfully.
     
  15. DruidNei

    DruidNei Well-Known Member

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    While Galwegian have their 14s, in ISS martial arts trained units have PH10 (Kanren, Pheasant). Maybe they eat too much donuts in Yu Jing police? Lots of paperwork?
     
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    xagroth Mournful Echo

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    They practice Gun-Fu :p
     
  17. the huanglong

    the huanglong Well-Known Member

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    PH 10 Pheasant with stun grenades, thanks for reminding me it exists. Every IS player has one, never seen one used as itself.
     
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  18. Death

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    On a side note, Natural Selection =/= survival of the fittest nor the best adaption being passed on. All Natural Selection entails is that those that reproduce will pass their genes on. Its quite possible for weak animals to be sneaky and still reproduce or to make up for their weakness in some other way. Like rabbits, rather easy prey. They just reproduced A LOT. Also, most species become hyper specialized and then when environmental pressures change, they get wiped out. Hence, about 99% of all species that have EVER existed on earth have gone extinct.

    Humans are so successful because our ability to adapt to an environment is not based solely on our genes (brain power HO!).
     
  19. Mahtamori

    Mahtamori Well-Known Member

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    Or wolves in proper packs (not the pitiful "packs" that roam northern Europe) where the alphas are too busy keeping everyone in line.

    Hyper-specialization isn't all that common. Extinction happens through evolution as well, where traits that make the species better adapted causes them to be re-classified as a new species.

    Tool-making is the shit. Still, natural selection lead to humans developing their fetuses to be parasites on their mothers in a hormonal struggle for control of bodily resources, whereas nearly all other mammals still encase their fetuses in super-controlled environment that are fed resources at a controlled pace.

    Humans are very Darwinistic - survival of the species most receptive to change.
     
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  20. Death

    Death Well-Known Member

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    Perhaps over specialization is the wrong word but most species go extinct because they can't adapt to a new threat such as weather change, new predators, disease, etc. But yes, these extinctions usually take a long time.

    "Still, natural selection lead to humans developing their fetuses to be parasites on their mothers in a hormonal struggle for control of bodily resources,"

    Actually, the placenta does a good job regulating the resources between mother and fetus. It is after all the function of the placenta. There is no struggle for resources between mother and fetus. Its not fully understood but its not parasitic. This misconception comes from a political debate thats way off topic though.

    To answer the thread question, because Scots have more balls than alien scum. :P
     
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