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Patsy + Kamau + Machinist Haris now broken?

Discussion in 'PanOceania' started by ThananRollice, Jul 11, 2019.

  1. ThananRollice

    ThananRollice Your Friendly Neighborhood Locust

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    New FAQ dropped this morning.

    Patsy just received the additional line "Patsy is considered an ORC for fireteam composition."

    This means Patsy can no longer create a Haris link with the Varuna Division Machinist. The Machinist's rules state that it can join any Kamau link.

    Our new toolbox link is now broken. [​IMG]
     
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  2. tox

    tox SorriBarai
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    This
    Varuna Immediate Reaction Division
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    MACHINIST (Varuna Div.) (CH: Mimetism, Stealth, Aquatic Terrain) Combi Rifle, D-Charges / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 17)
    KAMAU (Fireteam: Haris) Combi Rifle / Pistol, Knife. (0.5 | 21)
    PATSY GARNETT Submachine Gun, Nimbus Plus Grenades, D-Charges / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 37)

    0.5 SWC | 75 Points

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    is still a valid Kamau Haris
     
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  3. ThananRollice

    ThananRollice Your Friendly Neighborhood Locust

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    While this is true, one of the biggest draws of the original link was that you could include a heavy hitter like the Kamau HMG or HRL to move the other two specialists up to the midfield. Now, you miss out on that firepower.
     
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  4. Aldo

    Aldo Trying to detox from being a lorefag

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    And a pretty bad one unless you play in a table so closed it has padlocks as buildings.
     
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  5. Spinnaker

    Spinnaker Well-Known Member

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    I'm confused as to why this breaks it - what am I missing?. Why can't you declare that Patsy + Kamau HMG is a Kamau haris team? It's not like Patsy ever counted as a Kamau before - the fact that she's an ORC now shouldn't change anything.
     
  6. Aldo

    Aldo Trying to detox from being a lorefag

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    There's been another FaQ that says that a Haris is a Haris of the troop with the Haris skill, so a Patsy Haris is considered an ORC Haris and a machinist can't join.
     
  7. colbrook

    colbrook Black Fryer

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    As of today's Errata the Fireteam type is determined by the trooper with the skill. Also Patsy now counts as an ORC (and still Wildcard)

    So if Patsy is the only one with the Haris skill then it's an ORC Haris and the Machinist can't join.
     
  8. ThananRollice

    ThananRollice Your Friendly Neighborhood Locust

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    Because of this FAQ. Since Patsy is now classified specifically as an ORC, and is the one bearing the Haris skill, ant Haris team she forms is classified as an "ORC Haris."[​IMG]
     
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    Got it, thanks - that was the thing I hadn't seen
     
  10. Spinnaker

    Spinnaker Well-Known Member

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    I suppose you could just run a Kamau forward observer instead of the machinist - it's a 4 pt increase and you lose D-Charges, but a burst 2 flash pulse with mimetism ain't terrible
     
  11. Ben Kenobi

    Ben Kenobi Well-Known Member

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    I've bought Patsy yesterday (facepalm)
     
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  12. tox

    tox SorriBarai
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    But now this is a valid uber-ARO Fireteam
    Varuna Immediate Reaction Division
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    PATSY GARNETT Submachine Gun, Nimbus Plus Grenades, D-Charges / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 37)
    CLIPPER DRONBOT (Varuna Div.) (Aquatic Terrain) Missile Launcher / Electric Pulse. (1.5 | 18)
    CLIPPER DRONBOT (Varuna Div.) (Aquatic Terrain) Missile Launcher / Electric Pulse. (1.5 | 18)
    KAMAU (Multispectral Visor L2) MULTI Sniper Rifle / Pistol, Knife. (1.5 | 32)
    KAMAU (Multispectral Visor L2) MULTI Sniper Rifle / Pistol, Knife. (1.5 | 32)

    6 SWC | 137 Points

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  13. ThananRollice

    ThananRollice Your Friendly Neighborhood Locust

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    Patsy rolling up to PanO High Command and asking for all the SWC
     
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    yoink101 Well-Known Member

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    This is really stupid. That haris is not a game breaker. It’s okay. It’s not amazing. Why take it away? Why take a thing that players have been using and build a loophole that denies them that thing?
     
  15. Ben Kenobi

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    What is the advantage over the ORC with BS?
     
  16. ThananRollice

    ThananRollice Your Friendly Neighborhood Locust

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    You're actually better off ditching Patsy in this link and including the Machinist to repair the Clippers
     
  17. colbrook

    colbrook Black Fryer

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    Patsy has a long range flash pulse ARO, plus Nimbus Plus to combat enemy Fireteams, is an emergency specialist, and has NCO if she needs to make a break for the objective.
     
  18. colbrook

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    I'd want the Machinist outside the link so it doesn't provoke AROs to the entire team when he tries to fix the remote.
     
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  19. ThananRollice

    ThananRollice Your Friendly Neighborhood Locust

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    It's possible that it wasn't initially intended. But, I agree that it is a shame. I only just finished painting up my Machinist Conversion to join the Haris team. Oh well.
     
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  20. Section9

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    Yeah, I haz a sad now...