Is clipper in a fire team any good? It shoots like a fusilier, but for an extra hacker it can get ignore cover. HD isn’t exactly an auto include, so that’s an extra 8/0.5 cost.
On the other hand it has courage, 2 lvl of unconcious and aftermentioned option of getting Marksmanship. Would say its a valid option if someone makes a list around it.
It's not exactly optimised, but a defensive 5-man Kamau link with Hacker, Machinist and Clipper has some good synergy. For an LI list, perhaps.
It kind of is though, youll want the sniffer bots and potentially the Pathfinder, and bulleteers find themselves into a lot of lists (even if you're spending a lot of points in the Kamau link.)
I think he means a regular hacking device, the KHD Zulu unlocks remotes. The .5 SWC HD is kind of an unnatural fit for the sectorial. I would also argue that the need for the Pathfinder is mitigated by the Zulu LT.
2 for a feuerbach orc, 1.5 for the MSR Kamau, 1 for a Kamau HMG leaves enough for an HD + a bulleteer. That seems pretty reasonable to me The Zulu Lt is going to be a trap because people are going to see something with a jammer and try to murder it as quickly as they can
Its also a bit of a trap because of how expensive it is. Not taking a zulu LT can save some significant points for say taking a crocmen instead.
My issue is there isn't a great hacking device platform, or one that can reasonably fit into a link team. we only have two choices: A fusilier, who is extremely vulnerable and gives our opponent an alternative way to take away our link bonuses, and a Kamau who is expensive but a little more sturdy. I also disagree with this sentiment because if you're playing the Zulu LT correctly – they should never actually be seen on your reactive turn. He has a free order to re-camo every turn. use it.
I’m really not sold on neither the feuerbach nor the MSR. Pathfinder has some other nice tools apart from the sensor, like speed, being a specialist, sat lock, sniffer. For example to reveal half the table with sensor, you need to lay sniffer first. Funny how Pano wanted regular camo, because it’s cheap and now Zulu cost similar to hexa (with tools on top of ch, obviously).
eeh... I'd say the Yan Huo's Multi-HMG hits harder (dam 15), and can be in a Haris (lol) for the extra burst, but since it isn't the Hyperpower, it's only BS 14.
The clipper is nice in a 5 man especially with that engineer following along. Idk if it's better than the kamau sniper but I dont think there's alot of stuff better than the kamau sniper right now.
I apologize if I wasn't clear, but the Kamau MSR in a 5-man is the strongest ARO in the game in terms of range, inability to stack mods against it, and shooting skill in any given f2f. BS16 Mimetism with SSL2, hitting on 16s from 16 to 48. The Yan Huo will be B2 EXP at 14s, but can still be beaten by surprise shot from camo units or TO units, and it also is vulnerable to Smoke + MSV2. The Kamau can't shoot first into White Noise, but it has SSL2 in case it gets shot through white noise.
No I'm not. Mostly because of the fixed 1.5 SWC. I'm not even sure if that's the most powerful ARO, there's stuff like surprise ML template on you and everything (really) near you, Chasseur SSL1 + LFT, a bunch of other templates, where you can remove something disposable and take the shot with your face, Jammer. And it can still be trumped by a proper active turn attack piece. So maybe in ARO you don't need the bestest.
One of the best shooters in the game, point for point, will still take an average of 2 orders to kill it. Shooting at it with a Tikbalang inside of 32 inches is 35% for the Tik to wound and 30% for the Kamau to wound. Not worth the risk or the number of orders it could take to kill (3 on average, in which time my Tik would also take a wound.) And that's with BS15 and Mimetism, most armies can't field anything close to that...
You made an error in your calculation : you can't inflict Surprise shot to the Kamau if she is in a FT of 4+ members. So the odd are worse. I would have taken the Marut or the Aquila to fight against the Kamau to see the most powerful troop able to kill it. And serioulsy, use DA ammo against anything that isn't a TAG.
Shoot, I forgot to change the ammo type. The Marut and Aquila aren't going to be any more effective at killing it than anything with MSV1, really. It's more a matter of raw stats at that point -- a linked Bagh Mari is just as likely to win that f2f roll, and also packs B5.
Yes, but a lone Aquila costs way less than a full BM FT, can fail the first time and still being able to win the second one. And Marut is DMG 16. But, yes, a Riot Grrl at Spitfire range could deal with it effectively too.
