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PanO N4 Thread

Discussion in 'PanOceania' started by barakiel, Sep 25, 2020.

  1. SpectralOwl

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    Nobody.

    That's a B3 Oblivion Danavas, the normal version is B2.

    It doesn't actually bother me much, since CLAW-style hacking is still better as a reactive-turn thing and we can throw Oblivion right back at them from a host of cheap Fusiliers, or a Bolt with Veteran. The gap in Hacking capability is much smaller than it was before, with only about four units in the game getting clear advantages- and outside Nomads, they're hugely expensive.
     
  2. Skoll

    Skoll Well-Known Member

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    One day id love design team to actually respond to this.

    I want to at least see the bloody thought process that goes on. You think even if their in office meta is super different the desig philosophy or at least thought process would remain consistent across factions
     
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  3. emperorsaistone

    emperorsaistone Well-Known Member

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    Me too...I just dont get, why already good stuff got cheaper and better, while some that was underwhelming to begin with, has been barely touched.
     
  4. Cartographer

    Cartographer Well-Known Member

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    I'm basically taking nothing as final at this point, I'll give them a week to iron the bugs out (I want my Cutter to have a B4 EXP weapon, but I'm pretty sure it's unintended).
     
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  5. MikeTheScrivener

    MikeTheScrivener O-12 Peace Kepper

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    is the marksmen rifle locust really 0.5 SWC? why? I can only imagine this is a mistake
     
  6. gregmurdock

    gregmurdock Extremely Beloved Member

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    Agreeing with Teslarod, this has become an insane slugfest between extremely efficient killers. Everyone keeps telling me all the new stuff is great but they're just looking at everything in a vacuum and not how they effect the game.

    Not super excited about PanO right now. If I'd known our new stuff and update preview was simply Kaldstrom I'd have focused on my CA.
     
  7. Rot_Sechs

    Rot_Sechs Well-Known Member

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  8. Sangarn

    Sangarn TRIUMcorp CEO
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    This is a nightmare right ? Plz wake me up T_T
     
  9. Werekill

    Werekill Well-Known Member

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    Came back from a loooong hiatus to see this thread. I was curious about N4, but it's disappointing to hear that the first impressions are that the game is even more kill heavy.

    I can't wait to get this edition on the table and see if the theorycrafting holds up.
     
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  10. jakob.boysen

    jakob.boysen New Member

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    No, I wont run it, but I like that it would be possible. The opponent won't have enough hackers to get them all down. :-p Also 1 TAG is always a target, but with more they will be taking the heat off from each other.

    However I would probably run a 2-TAG list on certain missions. With Joan they are not eating a lot of point but also giving orders for a decent price.
     
  11. MikeTheScrivener

    MikeTheScrivener O-12 Peace Kepper

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    couple more things ive noticed:
    - really enjoying building lists for winterfor. not sure if I remember them being this diverse but Im enjoying it.
    - REMs not needing a hacking device anymore is so great for list building - so often the measly fusi hacker felt like this burdensome tax I can now just ignore.
     
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  12. Arkaon1125

    Arkaon1125 Well-Known Member

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    Is Inspiring Leadership dropped? I can't find it anymore in the rulebook
     
  13. Hiereth

    Hiereth AI Artichoke

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  14. eciu

    eciu Easter worshiper

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    For some reason it is in ancillary document with Fireteam rules.
     
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  15. A Mão Esquerda

    A Mão Esquerda Deputy Hexahedron Officer

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    Seems like an awful lot of doom and gloom for less than 12 hours since release, that’s for sure.
     
  16. thenewkid

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    Interesting to note, pano has among the highest gizmokit values in the game, remotes no longer have a negative to dodge, and almost all tags dodge on 11 regardless of physical now.

    The boyg is also looking rather good as he's armor 8 in cover and dodging on 16's if he needs to with the +1 B if he shoots.
    The hexas picked up shock immune, which is a nice freebie.
    Krakots and bounty hunters get to reroll their metachemistry/booty rolls, that's kinda cool.
    Fairy dust being able to apply to Tags and remotes could be helpful, and it looks like assisted fire is now only provided by evo hacking devices. Though I wonder if we'll see bulleteers taken as much now that marksmanship no longer gives shock.
    Oh and I absolutely love the changes to Joan.
     
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  17. A Mão Esquerda

    A Mão Esquerda Deputy Hexahedron Officer

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    Don’t forget the Bøyg also has Dodge (+1”) so he’s getting almost a full second MOV as he comes up.
     
  18. eciu

    eciu Easter worshiper

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    Unless you are TIKbalang xD
     
  19. eciu

    eciu Easter worshiper

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    Who said it works in ARO ?
     
  20. Skoll

    Skoll Well-Known Member

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    Man i thought we were doom and gloom but i went to check the spanish forum for pano and it hasnt even had a post since june ... oof
     
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