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Discussion in 'Ariadna' started by Kras, May 1, 2019.

  1. Kras

    Kras New Member

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    I’ve been playing for a little less than a year and I’m still trying to figure out list necessities what do you all think of this list.

    Tak 1──────────────────────────────────────────────────GROUP 1[​IMG] [​IMG] [​IMG]10
    FRONTOVIK Engineer T2 Rifle, Light Rocket Launcher, D-Charges / Assault Pistol, Knife. (0.5 | 33)
    VETERAN KAZAK Lieutenant AP HMG / Heavy Pistol, Knife. (1 | 47)
    VETERAN KAZAK (X Visor) T2 Rifle, Light Flamethrower / Heavy Pistol, Knife. (0 | 38)
    LINE KAZAK Rifle / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 9)
    LINE KAZAK Rifle / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 9)
    TANKHUNTER (Chain of Command) AP Rifle, Adhesive Launcher, D-Charges / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 30)
    TANKHUNTER AP Rifle, Adhesive Launcher, D-Charges / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 25)
    STRELOK (Forward Observer) Boarding Shotgun / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 20)
    STRELOK (Forward Observer) Boarding Shotgun / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 20)
    KAZAK DOKTOR Rifle / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 13)

    GROUP 2[​IMG] [​IMG] [​IMG]5
    DOZER (Traktor Mul Control Device) Rifle, D-Charges / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 14)
    TRAKTOR MUL (Total Reaction) Uragan MRL / Electric Pulse. (1 | 18)
    TRAKTOR MUL (Minesweeper) Electric Pulse. (0 | 5)
    LINE KAZAK Rifle / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 9)
    LINE KAZAK Rifle / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 9)
    2.5 SWC | 299 Points
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    #1 Kras, May 1, 2019
    Last edited: May 2, 2019
  2. regelridderen

    regelridderen Dismember

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    Try reformatting the list to make it readable.
     
  3. Asreon_

    Asreon_ Confused bardic artist

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    So I think I got the list right

    Tartary Army Corps
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    GROUP 1[​IMG] [​IMG] [​IMG]10
    FRONTOVIK Engineer T2 Rifle, Light Rocket Launcher, D-Charges / Assault Pistol, Knife. (0.5 | 33)
    VETERAN KAZAK Lieutenant AP HMG / Heavy Pistol, Knife. (1 | 47)
    VETERAN KAZAK (X Visor) T2 Rifle, Light Flamethrower / Heavy Pistol, Knife. (0 | 38)
    LINE KAZAK Rifle / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 9)
    LINE KAZAK Rifle / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 9)
    TANKHUNTER (Chain of Command) AP Rifle, Adhesive Launcher, D-Charges / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 30)
    STRELOK (Forward Observer) Boarding Shotgun / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 20)
    STRELOK (Forward Observer) Boarding Shotgun / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 20)
    KAZAK DOKTOR Rifle / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 13)
    TANKHUNTER AP Rifle, Adhesive Launcher, D-Charges / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 25)

    GROUP 2[​IMG] [​IMG] [​IMG]5
    DOZER (Traktor Mul Control Device) Rifle, D-Charges / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 14)
    TRAKTOR MUL (Minesweeper) Electric Pulse. (0 | 5)
    TRAKTOR MUL (Total Reaction) Uragan MRL / Electric Pulse. (1 | 18)
    LINE KAZAK Rifle / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 9)
    LINE KAZAK Rifle / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 9)

    2.5 SWC | 299 Points

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    I think you lack a backup heavy hitter, once the Vet Kazak HMG, which is also your LT, goes down, you lack offensive power. Also two more Line Kazaks that could fill out the link is nice, but they are in the wrong group to help out there. Two Streloks as forward objebtive grabbers is fine I think, though they could use more backup. Maybe something like this:

    Tartary Army Corps
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    GROUP 1[​IMG] [​IMG] [​IMG]10
    FRONTOVIK Engineer T2 Rifle, Light Rocket Launcher, D-Charges / Assault Pistol, Knife. (0.5 | 33)
    VETERAN KAZAK (X Visor) T2 Rifle, Light Flamethrower / Heavy Pistol, Knife. (0 | 38)
    LINE KAZAK (Forward Observer) Rifle / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 10)
    STRELOK (Forward Observer) Boarding Shotgun / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 20)
    LINE KAZAK (Forward Observer) Rifle / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 10)
    STRELOK (Forward Observer) Boarding Shotgun / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 20)
    VETERAN KAZAK AP HMG / Heavy Pistol, Knife. (2 | 47)
    TANKHUNTER Lieutenant AP Rifle, Adhesive Launcher, D-Charges / Pistol, Knife. (1 | 25)
    STRELOK (Minelayer) Boarding Shotgun, Antipersonnel Mines / Pistol, Knife. (0.5 | 21)
    LINE KAZAK Rifle / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 9)

    GROUP 2[​IMG] [​IMG] [​IMG]4
    DOZER (Traktor Mul Control Device) Rifle, D-Charges / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 14)
    TANKHUNTER (Chain of Command) AP Rifle, Adhesive Launcher, D-Charges / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 30)
    TRAKTOR MUL (Minesweeper) Electric Pulse. (0 | 5)
    TRAKTOR MUL (Total Reaction) Uragan MRL / Electric Pulse. (1 | 18)

    5 SWC | 300 Points

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    Now one of the Tankhunters is your LT, you got three more Camo Markers in the midfield to ruin your opponents day and two more specialists in the link, also one Kazak Decoy LT, you loose out on having a Doctor though and still no second heavy hitter.
     
  4. holycannoli

    holycannoli Dancing to Kazak Kalinka

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    My early army lists tended to look like this too and I certainly agree with @Asreon_ in that once that Vet HMG goes down, and they can go down, your list is down to rifles and shotguns. Not a great place to be in. Not to mention the LT in the link team is purely there too save you SWC, as he cannot spend the LT order to activate the fireteam. I guess you can use it for turn 3 rampage? Regardless your initial list had SWC to spare so save you some points on the Chain of command tankhunter, and make him a sneaky LT. as you also have plenty of rifle kazaks standing around nonchalantly that may eat up opponents orders if they find themselves greedy for a loss of lieutenant.

    The next question is the Uragan, are you talking it to TR things, or to guided missile things? If it's the later I highly recommend the Katyusha as the total reaction is a bit of a waste. Not to mention you usually need to feed the thing plenty of orders to fully fill the skies with rockets.

    Where's the LT?
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    GROUP 1[​IMG] [​IMG] [​IMG]9
    FRONTOVIK Engineer T2 Rifle, Light Rocket Launcher, D-Charges / Assault Pistol, Knife. (0.5 | 33)
    VETERAN KAZAK AP HMG / Heavy Pistol, Knife. (2 | 47)
    VETERAN KAZAK (X Visor) T2 Rifle, Light Flamethrower / Heavy Pistol, Knife. (0 | 38)
    LINE KAZAK Rifle / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 9)
    LINE KAZAK Rifle / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 9)
    STRELOK (Forward Observer) Boarding Shotgun / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 20)
    STRELOK (Forward Observer) Boarding Shotgun / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 20)
    TANKHUNTER Portable Autocannon, D-Charges / Pistol, Knife. (1.5 | 34)
    LINE KAZAK Rifle / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 9)

    GROUP 2[​IMG] [​IMG] [​IMG]4 [​IMG]2 [​IMG]2
    DOZER (Traktor Mul Control Device) Rifle, D-Charges / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 14)
    TM KURYER (Total Reaction) Uragan MRL, Antipersonnel Mines / Electric Pulse. (1 | 21)
    TRAKTOR MUL (Minesweeper) Electric Pulse. (0 | 5)
    IRMANDINHO Chain Rifle, D-Charges, Smoke Grenades / Pistol, AP CCW. (0 | 8)
    IRMANDINHO Chain Rifle, D-Charges, Smoke Grenades / Pistol, AP CCW. (0 | 8)
    TANKHUNTER Lieutenant AP Rifle, Adhesive Launcher, D-Charges / Pistol, Knife. (1 | 25)

    6 SWC | 300 Points

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    I felt safe enough to get rid of chain of command because with the strelocks and 2 tank hunters you're looking at 8 camo tokens in midfield. That plus a decoy kazak your opponent is going to pull his hair out if he thinks he can force a loss of LT.

    I got rid of the doctor, as while I do like my medics, you'll find that medics in Ariadna are a gamble without the cube reroll. Plus you already have a dozer, multiple FO's and I tossed in a pair or irmandinhos for some cheap smoke and maybe they can do an objective as they scream across the board.

    I upgraded the uragan mul to the kuryer, as a flank guard he's slightly better because he also sets up landmines. But if you want you can trade out Kuryer for the regular Mul plus upgrading the tankhunter autocannon to a HMG spetznaz for more active turn murder and for some backup punch to the APHMG vet.

    And finally I made your 2nd combat group the more passive one, Irmandinhos don't use many orders if they don't need to and the Kuryer can lob a shot or two if the oppertunity presents itself. I assume your LT tank hunter is going to be the most passive out of the group.
     
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  5. Kras

    Kras New Member

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    Thanks sorry just got the original post edited and yes I was using the mul for guided fire as I liked the AP+Shock ammo on it a lot.