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[Official Announcement] New plastic resin miniatures

Discussion in 'News' started by Koni, Feb 28, 2023.

  1. UpirLihi

    UpirLihi Well-Known Member

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    Only issue with that is that siocast is produced in house, this comes from the other side of the world. With all the added risks.
     
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  2. A Mão Esquerda

    A Mão Esquerda Deputy Hexahedron Officer

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    An acquaintance who (pre-pandemic) had looked at possibly producing a KS in China is glad they didn't, because the astronomical increase from funding to fulfillment in shipping costs alone would have killed the project.
     
  3. Camo Token

    Camo Token Well-Known Member

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    I agree, that was just the material choice. In a perfect world they could find somewhere in EU at least working with the same stuff.
     
  4. Deus Kalsa

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    This time is long gone the shipping prices now are lower than before the plague


    This is not the real problem.
    The problem is find a producer who is cheap enough to make profit after sale the stuff for a price the consumer would pay
     
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    AmPm Well-Known Member

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    I know this varies by person, but come on, the reason they switched was "metal too expensive for big models" but they are charging $70 for the upcoming CJC box of 4 dudes. If you expect that to sell you could just do metal rems and TAGs too.
     
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  6. psychoticstorm

    psychoticstorm Aleph's rogue child
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    This box is an indicator of were metal prices can go, admittedly the models are big, but they are also a big mass of metal.
     
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  7. AmPm

    AmPm Well-Known Member

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    And i would rather pay that for a TAG or REM box than $40 for Siocast.
     
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  8. Camo Token

    Camo Token Well-Known Member

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    Tin just took a swan dive, down 40%, to pre-pandemic levels and only slightly rebounded.

    You're out of touch and the company can no longer use tin price as a mask of hyperinflating model prices.

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    Triumph Well-Known Member

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    Could any german speakers here translate the gist of that video?
     
  10. UpirLihi

    UpirLihi Well-Known Member

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    Sigh... tin prices again. I feel like I'm having a deja vu.

    Tin is at almost pre-pandemic levels, but adjusting for inflation. Which means that you should also adjust miniature prices for inflation if you want to compare. Also, there is a delay between the price of tin and the price of tin alloys that reach the companies like CB. So we expect the second to be lagging with a period that we cannot quite gauge because we don't know CB's dealings with metal suppliers. And then there's the issue with volatility. Even if prices are now low, they are still very unstable, as indicated by the sharp falls and raises. This creates risks for smaller companies, which then has to be compensated by... yep, price (ok, technically other ways too, but you won't like them either). Add to this energy prices, which are also trending down, but not yet where they were and also volatile.

    Does metal sound more viable for tiny toy soldiers than it did a year ago? Yeah. Is everything back to normal? Hell no!
     
  11. Camo Token

    Camo Token Well-Known Member

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    Oh no, the market is volatile and the company has to take risks!

    Anyway...
     
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  12. Knauf

    Knauf Transhumanist

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    According to them it's nearly identical quality to their metal infantry.
     
  13. Triumph

    Triumph Well-Known Member

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    Well shit ok then. I'm interested.
     
  14. psychoticstorm

    psychoticstorm Aleph's rogue child
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    Details are casted well, cleans well, some care is needed on the pressure when cleaning as it is less resistant that metal.
     
  15. AmPm

    AmPm Well-Known Member

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    They said the same things about siocast.
     
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    Lady Numiria Cyberius TaskForce

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    Except than compared to siocast, reviews agree with them ^^'
     
  17. UpirLihi

    UpirLihi Well-Known Member

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    Yep, reviews for this are coming in better than for siocast. We will see more when people actually start buying the boxes, but for now this new pvc-resin mystery thing enjoys more love.
     
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  18. Camo Token

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    Yeah, the in-depth reviews of the Ayaar were quite convincing. It's less sturdy than metal, but otherwise it's finally technology that allows an appropriate level of detail. I was very afraid of "PVC" being mentioned and worried that it's going to be "Aristeia Core Box blobs" all over again.

    But this? This is fine.
     
  19. Mob of Blondes

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    50% primed, now prime the other 50%. Bonus if showing only the zones that have the same shape (tacticrap foot?) and ask people to guess which is which material.

    They tried metal mold layouts and part splits with siocast, then made people buy those experiments as well as guess the different handling, and so left a bad aftertaste. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ They need to think over what does "alternatives" encompass.

    They will have to keep the pressure in Unicool, so they do not go that way once they are hooked.
     
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  20. dhellfox

    dhellfox The keeper of the Forgotten

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    just got my first non metal tag. just making sure, the OP said nothing needs to change for priming than what i did for metal minis so that means i don't need to wash them like they are resin models?
     
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