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Discussion in 'Haqqislam' started by QueensGambit, Sep 25, 2020.

  1. QueensGambit

    QueensGambit Chickenbot herder

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    I want to run a list called "Maggie Claus" with 5 Daylamis in group 2. Maggie runs around the board throwing mines everywhere, and whenever she comes near a Daylami, he uses his irregular order to reload his panzerfaust.

    Sadly, once a Daylami starts shooting he doesn't usually live long enough to spend his irregular order, so I don't think it will work as well as I want it to work.
     
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  2. sackofowls

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    I can't figure out what the -3 is?
     
  3. ijw

    ijw Ian Wood aka the Wargaming Trader. Rules & Wiki
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    Any negative MOD after a Skill in a profile is a MOD to the opponent when you use that Skill. So when they use Trinity, they’re imposing a -3 MOD to the target.
     
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  4. emperorsaistone

    emperorsaistone Well-Known Member

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    Looks like Flash Pulse now imposes two BTS rolls. This makes up a bit for the lost Burst in a Fireteam. For single models its actually a big deal imho.
     
  5. Cadwallon

    Cadwallon Well-Known Member

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    And even maggie can reload herself her mines...
     
  6. Terrenor

    Terrenor Active Member

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    Koni just confirmed that the Al Fasid don't have the Immunity shock skill. This blows my mind.
    Sorry I don't get it.
    Every HI in N4 has Immunity shock. I looked it up. Even Ariadna one wound HI got immunity shock.

    I really love this model and want to place it in my armylist. I thought six scenes would make him a great aro piece.

    But mostly I'm disappointed because of this inconsistencies. I know nested rules are gone but this bothers me a lot.
     
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  7. Geodron

    Geodron Well-Known Member

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    I guess we know who the second no shock immune S5 HI will be in November.

    Also the Fasid didn't get a discount outside of SWC. So it seems to be a deliberate message of "don't use this guy".
     
  8. Errhile

    Errhile A traveller on the Silk Road

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    I find that disheartening. Especially given it took me a few years to find an application for the 2ed. S2 Azra'il models I own 5 of (CB made them useless with no prior warning by making Azra'il S5 in N3).
    C'mon, CB, that's getting kinda old...​
     
  9. KwarkyMats

    KwarkyMats Well-Known Member

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    I think the log mentions the Al Fasid is lacking the skill right now and that it'll get fixed.
    Would be really weird to be the only 2 wound infantry that lacks the skill.
     
  10. Geodron

    Geodron Well-Known Member

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    Koni says they do not have the skill, meaning its not a bug that they don't.
     
  11. Terrenor

    Terrenor Active Member

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    I was mentioned as a bug in the Army thread. A few minutes ago koni posted a list with bug fixes and says and I quote "ahl fasid: this unit does not have the Immunity shock skill"
     
  12. Fenrir

    Fenrir Well-Known Member

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    in this days they want you to use the Hassassin tag, instead of reworking the alfasid.

    Just go to CA and see SOGARAT for 3 more points its just disgusting... (not to mention spinxh and avatar crazy reduccions)
     
  13. Brokenwolf

    Brokenwolf Well-Known Member

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    While the loss of Shock Immunity hurts, it still has a use. It is support toolbox piece that has an HMG, regular grenade launcher, Smoke Grenade Launcher, minelayer and ignores isolated and surprise shot. It seems like they want one to pay for its flexibility.
     
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  14. Terrenor

    Terrenor Active Member

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    It seems so. The new TAG is just 5 points more.
    Compared to all the other S5 HIs the Fasid lacks of something.
    I don't see the Fasid as my main attack piece.
    Six scenes is a really good skill Veteran although.
    Mine layer helps to cover your back.
    Over all I like both profils.
    But as much in this faction, I play Ramah, you pay for skills that don't came into play.

    Yu Jing got their awesome reworked combat cat, which is although old by the way.

    Maybe CB really wants to sell their new TAG.
     
  15. Errhile

    Errhile A traveller on the Silk Road

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    Nevertheless, it is a very, very strange design decision. If all the other Heavy Infantry have it (as it seems to be the new way of the old "2 W models are Shock Immune" blanket rule), then having one - and way less than obvious, being one of the S5 superheavies - lack it, and without any clearly visible reason / compensation is... odd.

    @ijw is there a chance you could shed some light on this issue, please?
     
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    Triumph Well-Known Member

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    I read that as "this unit does not have the Immunity Shock Skill" as in it is missing and needs to be added.
     
  17. Terrenor

    Terrenor Active Member

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    Sadly no. Friday sameone pointed a out that immunity shock is miss today koni posted the scentence above.
     
  18. ijw

    ijw Ian Wood aka the Wargaming Trader. Rules & Wiki
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    Flagged for checking.
     
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  19. Fenrir

    Fenrir Well-Known Member

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    Well its a very expensive tool box that can't do his job.

    For the same points or similar we got the jenizar HMG that now got BS 14 and the Smoke Grenade Launcher ghulam with 3 orders not just 1 so...

    In the other hand we got the tag thats is and improved alfasid with BS14 and 6 amor with 3 wounds for 5 more points

    Is this the price for that Smoke Grenade Launcher?? don't think so..
     
  20. Papa Bey

    Papa Bey Clueless Wonder. Still.

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    *sigh*
     
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