Discussion in 'PanOceania' started by eciu, Feb 25, 2019.
You get to enjoy all the benefits of the new CB unit design philosophy!
In VIRD ;P
Enjoy while it lasts! :D
Hm... anyone else a taker for Yadu+Bolt Fireteams in NCA? Doesn't sound so bad to be honest.
I'd take Yadu over ORCs any day
Take the whole Yadu set!
Which is why we won’t get Yadu in NCA, they’d overshadow the poor Orcs.
I’m on the we’ll get some mixed fire teams and call it good train in terms of expectations. I’d love to see Bolts get some adjustments, but I doubt we’ll see much beyond a mixed link of some sort. Unless CB’s analytics have picked up that no tournament lists run Bolts. Seriously the only Bolt link I’ve seen in 4 years of tournaments was run by a new player, who now no longer brings Bolts.
Orc and Aquila Haris maybe a thing?
Mixed Fireteams is enough to help a lot of the more bland HI.
Units like ORCs, Highlander Greys, Father Knights, Mobile Brigada, etc are lacklustre by themselves but backed up by a cheap link they become suitably punchy. The more generic profiles do suffer (you're never going to see a combi ORC/MB) but plopping a high BS, tough HMG/ML/Feueueurbach into a link for the extra BS and 6th sense is a real force multiplier.
I'm just waiting for more info. ANY info.
I'm not into yoga.
Stretching, reaching and jumping to conclusions based on incomplete or absent data is a fool's errand. I leave that to the fanatic peat.
NCA was still very good by HSN3 and Uprising standards. They don't need much. Bolt Haris, some clever mixing of devas into fireteams will do the job. LT on the Aquila HMG would also be welcome.
If we want to power fantasize, getting the Aquila Guard to Burst 5 or (may Allah forgive me for uttering this phrase) BS 18 by linking it with Fusies or Bolts would be a pretty strong force for getting the remaining stock off the shelves.
Something i've always wanted for NCA is something of the following. Although i know this would never happen. But still. Unrealistic wishlisting.
AQUILA MULTI Rifle, Drop Bears / Pistol, Shock CCW. (0 | 59)
AQUILA Lieutenant MULTI Rifle, Drop Bears / Pistol, Shock CCW. (LT Lv2) (+1 | 59)
AQUILA HMG / Pistol, Shock CCW. (NCO) (2 | 64)
With a wildcard for the Multi Rifle profiles only. The drop bears were there as a cheapish way to increase points because +1 SWC and LT Lv2 is quite powerful. NCO gives the best of both worlds for the HMG. Lt order without risking the Lt. This can also show case some of that rumoured Aquila command abilities.
AUXILIA Combi Rifle + AUXBOT_2 / Pistol, Knife. (0.5 | 16)
AUXBOT_2 Light Shotgun + Eclipse Light Grenade Launcher / Electric Pulse. (- | 6)
AUXILIA Combi Rifle + AUXBOT_4 / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 14)
AUXBOT_1 Adhesive Launcher, Flash Pulse, Repeater / Electric Pulse. (- | 4)
Expand Auxbot roles by giving them an unreliable smoke option. This may step on the toes of the Guarda, but my reasoning is that the SWC cost for a cheap, unreliable smoke platform on an unreliable shooter with no specialist status will not detract from the Guarda whose role as a better gunfighter that just happens to bring a smoke thrower along. And that adhesive launcher bot. Well, KISS was that originally and BIT was Pan'O...... See where i'm going here. A more ranged ARO auxbot that the close in flamer thrower version. It just also happens to bring a repeater along to help with nets. (Also, not 100% on cost of that one too.)
AUXILIA Combi Rifle + AUXBOT_5 / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 16)
AUXBOT_1 (Minelayer, Minesweeper) Antipersonel Mines, E-Mauler / Electric Pulse. (1 | 6)
That last one will NEVER happen. But would be nice. And it would be the Aux bot that has the mines.
With the FD Lv1 for the new ITS in mind. A re-costing and a slight re purpose towards CQC dominance through aggressive defense would really boost Bolts in my opinion. Make deployable weapons the name of the game for bolts. Where only the long range options lack throwable stuff. Axed the basic profile as drop bears are the name of the game here and the unit SHOULD pack a lot of them. A basic bolt with no LSG and DB would be 18 points. Those 3 points would give more value than lost in my opinion.
BOLT Combi Rifle + Light Shotgun, Drop Bears / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 21)
BOLT Boarding Shotgun, E/M Grenades / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 19)
BOLT MULTI Sniper Rifle / Pistol, Knife. (1.5 | 26)
BOLT Missile Launcher, Light Shotgun / Pistol, Knife. (1.5 | 25)
BOLT Spitfire, Drop Bears / Pistol, Knife. (1.5 | 25)
BOLT Hacker (Hacking Device) Boarding Shotgun, E/M Grenades / Pistol, Knife. (0.5 | 27)
BOLT Paramedic (MediKit) Combi Rifle + Light Shotgun, Drop Bears / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 23)
BOLT Lieutenant Combi Rifle + Light Shotgun, Drop Bears / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 21)
BOLT Combi Rifle + Light Shotgun, Wild Parrot / Pistol, Knife. (0.5 | 24)
Once again. THIS WILL NEVER HAPPEN! Especially since they put Machinists in Bolt links for some reason.
BOLT (Engineer) Combi Rifle + Light Grenade Launcher (Eclipse), D-Charges / Pistol, Knife. (1 | 23)
Now my reasoning behind that (Even though it's impossible) is that While INSANELY powerful in a link. You still have to buy a 5 man core of Bolts to pull it off.
Of Course the Auxila is just pure wishlisting as i think it would be cool and expand unit roles quite well. The bolts and Aquila with the exception of those i said are wishlisting would be the bare minimum changes.
Just a little exercise i've been sitting on for a while.
I want the E/M LGL back on the Aquila MULTI.
That or put Mono mines back on our Clipper. ;)
Thanks for reminding me.
Now that I am home i can make something a bit more serious.
Bolt fireteam/profile rework should be the big priority of the NCA rework. Just like how our other sectorials have plug and play fireteams that fold other units into it bolts should be our baseline. I think they could be prime candidates for not Fusiliers but CSUs. Make Bipandra linkable (or even wildcard) with bolts to synergize with their bioimmune. The bolt Aquilla haris to match ISS's haris monster. As many people have said, NCA has gotten quite a few tweaks already in some major departments. A few flairs like NCO, TacAw and counter Intel where appropriate would be most welcome and a new profile or two to refresh the old would be unexpected but nice. I doubt NCA will receive too much beyond what happened to Acon.
Go away, biker scrubs.
Both... both is good.
My NCA wishlist
Emily and Knauf-make both able to join fusilier fireteams.
Bolts-wild card, cheaper profiles, haris profile.
Orcs-1 orc can join a fusilier fire team
Remotes-remotes can join bolt fire teams.
As much as I would love Emily to come home to PanO, I don't think it's ever going to happen. She's too good.