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Non-Aligned Armies in N4

Discussion in 'General' started by psychoticstorm, Aug 6, 2019.

  1. Hecaton

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    Wait, why not?
     
  2. Aemaru

    Aemaru Well-Known Member

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    It was not to encourage anyone doing this in reality (May I talk about not encouraging at taking a missile launcher and killing people in reality for example ?) but an example of cheap impetuous troopers like kuang shi or highlander or else.
    Do not reproduce Infinity scene at home plz :D
     
  3. TheDiceAbide

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    I finally came up with something I'd like to see, besides a vanilla Merc faction.

    I want Carmen Johns & Batard to show up in Druze, and Dahshat. It's just such a lovely model to only show up in two sectorials (TAK and Ramah). Also, it would be a very different and interesting option in Druze, without totally skewing the army.
     
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    Listen to the man.
    I wanted Krakots and Libertos in Druze, but Carmen is a great ASSet also.
    Dahshat doesn't need her, but Druze does. Really.
    Listen to the wise man.


    PozdRawiam / Greetings
     
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  5. TheDiceAbide

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    Yeah, Dahshat doesn't need her at all, but it's not an unreasonable place to see her... I just want more opportunity to use her really, haha.
     
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  6. jfunkd

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    I would practically kill for this.

    My top 3 inclusions for DBS would be

    1. Krakot
    2. Al Fasid
    3. Carmen

    I'd love the Libertos, but DBS is a sleeper top faction and honestly the libertos could make their midfield way too good.

    I mean can you imagine this on top of the Druze core... it's delicious, but insane.

    Also, I think it would kill CB to put an impetuous in DBS apparently.

    Druze Bayram Security
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    KRAKOT RENEGADE 2 Chain Rifles, Grenades / Pistol, DA CC Weapon. (0 | 14)
    KRAKOT RENEGADE 2 Chain Rifles, Grenades / Pistol, DA CC Weapon. (0 | 14)
    LIBERTO (Minelayer) Light Shotgun, Chain-colt, Antipersonnel Mines / Pistol, Knife. (1 | 10)
    HUNZAKUT (Forward Observer, Deployable Repeater) Rifle + Light Shotgun, Antipersonnel Mines / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 18)
    HUNZAKUT (Forward Observer, Deployable Repeater) Rifle + Light Shotgun, Antipersonnel Mines / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 18)
    PEACEMAKER Heavy Shotgun + AUXBOT_3 / Electric Pulse. (0 | 21)
    [​IMG] AUXBOT_3 Heavy Flamethrower / Electric Pulse. (- | 4)

    2 SWC | 95 Points

    Open in Infinity Army
     
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  7. Foxep

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    I think Druze have an awesome fluff unit selection right now, and any addition should keep that feel. For that, i dont find krakots or libertos to belong in druze. Anyone entering druze should be a bad guy merc, with haqquislamite connections. Fishmen and aliens dont fill that role. Druze is a very secretive society, they wouldnt hire that much strange people on board, thats what i think at least.
     
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  8. colbrook

    colbrook Grenade Delivery Specialist

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    If Druze was expanded I'd rather see it more differentiated from Ikari, not more similar.

    Libertos, Krakots, and Al Fasid just bring the two factions closer to each other, even Carmen fills a similar niche to Desperados, I'd rather they bring in something else to make them more distinct.
     
  9. jfunkd

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    I feel your sentiment, but with Armand in the sectorial already; I think that the Krakot at least fits the lore.
     
  10. Foxep

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    I feel Armand fits already, he is a brainwashed assasin, doing jobs for the highest bidder. It feels the kind of merc that druze would hire as he does not ask questions (Le Muet xD and brainwashing) and that is easily deniable for a group like the druze.
     
  11. jfunkd

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    I don't see Krakots asking any questions other than "Who you want me to kill?" and "Where's my money for Chems?" :joy:

    IMO they really fit the idea of Druze too, which is basically "by any means possible." They are brutal, uncompromising, and ultimately disposable.

    Maybe they just smell to bad to be on the Bayram Caravansary.
     
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    I'd really like to see an NA2 army that was a better mix of Alien races and Human sphere troops. Something full of misfits with a real Star Wars Cantina feel to it.
     
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  13. Cthulhu363

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    I'm personally hoping for a corporate security faction. Lotsa CSUs, ABHs, generic Ramhorn TAGs. If that was a Vanilla NA2...even better.
     
  14. TheDiceAbide

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    I came up with one more thing I wanted... an Authorized Bounty Hunter on a Motorcycle with Booty L1.

    Even if there's a 0.5 SWC tax associated with it and it doesn't have smoke, I just want the mobility and an excuse to use that mini.
     
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  15. Guardian

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    So much YES!!!
     
  16. The Holy Knight

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    For Spiral Corps:

    Brawlers needs more Weapon options (also Spitfire/HMG) and Skills options. Furthermore also needs a point adjustment.
    Chaksa Longarms needs seriously a reason to exist.
    Hatail Aelis Keesan needs a discount.
    Mutan Symbiobeast is never played, it needs something.
    Kaeltar Specialists should be AVA 2.
    Kiel Saan have two insensate fireteam options. Please give to it simply fireteam Triad. He needs also a point adjustment.
    Helot Militia have 4 models on the box, please increase AVA to 4.
    Would be nice to see more Pheroware Tactics and many profile with this.
    Would be very nice to have many exotic weapon and equipment (we have few hacking devices and no one HMG apart the Tag and the Chaksa only in ARO; we should be have equivalent tools and weapons).
    Finally I think it is hard make lists with the SWC cost of many of our units. Please considered of reduce the SWC of some profiles or add many options that increase the total swc (like the +1 SWC profile of Neema Saatar).
     
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  17. Fed4ykin

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    As I am pretty new in the hobby, I don't really know if I am able to say a lot. But as I started with JSA because of the lovely models.
    I think the faction needs a saver method to deliver the meelee mayhem. I know CC is always just a tool and almost never the goal. But when there is a faction where you might have the goal of CC it's JSA.

    So more profiles with smoke would be well appreciated.

    Aragotos with smoke would be very nice. Or a domaru with smokegrenadelauncher.

    All ninjas should have smoke for reasons.

    In uprising kuroshi arm is described as giving her martial prowess without learning. So maybe give her at least some level of MA or NBW.

    I really love the daiyokai but it's missing a little something to really seal the deal. I love the miniature. (in fact the mini was the reason I decided to go for JSA)
    He has one of the highest BS in JSA, so he is designed as a firing platform. Maybe mimetsm or fullauto? Or give him CC23, and NBW, but there a enough other meeleemonsters. I just like the thought of the daiyokai mowing through enemy lines with his Katanas.

    -tactical awareness on domaru, shikami or daiyokai would be nice. Well with NCO on the daiyokai it might be a little too much. But still nice.

    Shouldn't dual wield give +1 burst? You are not striking with both weapons at once.

    Miyamoto should be the king of CC proper. So maybe give him a rule that let's him keep his MA even if he is fighting something with NBW and call it: Kenshin.

    A specialist profile of some kind would be nice on him. (same with Saito)

    A little more resilience would be nice. (ODD, mimetsm, 2 wounds)

    All ninjas could be specialists, that's what they are.

    Shikami could use some kind of forward deployment and/or tactical awareness.

    And monofilament schoud ignore total immunity since total immunity.

    A result of the karakuri and oyama would be nice too.

    That would be my wishlist.
     
  18. AssaultUnicorn

    AssaultUnicorn KTS is the best unit

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    I'm curious: does anyone thinks Kaplans need a rework of any kind, or do you think they're fine with where they are at the moment? I've got a couple of thoughts in this regard but I feel like I'm asking too much and upgrading Kaplans may make them a little bit OP.
     
  19. colbrook

    colbrook Grenade Delivery Specialist

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    They're probably paying a point or two more for BTS than they should, but I think the main problems with Kaplans are their opportunity cost, rather than points.

    In QK they can't be joined by Hafza or Odas, this makes the link more expensive than other Cores, and also less flexible as you now get fewer choices. They are also not a Dr+ like the other Fireteams.

    In ForCo the Haris is pretty neat, but again the Dr is overshadowed by Avicenna.

    I actually think they're really solid as a Haris (mainly because the skill is on the Spitfire) but they're not quite there as a Fireteam: Core
     
  20. AssaultUnicorn

    AssaultUnicorn KTS is the best unit

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    Agreed, the core is pretty expensive. I think they could use either some fireteam flexibility or at least have some more varied profiles. I'd love to have a Kaplan minelayer, for example, as they don't have all that much in terms of defensive weaponry. They do have blitzens, yes, but they require standing in a long 16-32" corridor where they can be outshot by an HMG. Maybe give them riotstopper profiles, it seems in line with their noble merc lore and current weapons. I also agree that their high BTS is very situational and could be trimmed down to 3.
     
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