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New link team options

Discussion in 'PanOceania' started by thenewkid, Nov 29, 2018.

  1. meikyoushisui

    meikyoushisui Competitor for Most Ignored User

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    If you take a whole core of FD1, are you really deploying the whole team in a 4inch by 16 inch block? That doesn't seem like a great idea.

    Also remember that FD1 is granted by ITS and may not return next year.
     
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  2. xammy

    xammy Keeper of Random Facts and Strong Opinions

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    Also, bolts are 4-2 move, and the machinist is 4-4... that 4" extra deployment disappears pretty quick once they start move-moving.
     
  3. barakiel

    barakiel Echo Bravo Master Sergeant

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    With 4-4 MOV, the Machinist can deploy in coherency and catch up easily. FD L1 isn't that much further up.

    Edit: @xammy got it.

    TBH I actually may prefer that Machinist loadout as a solo choice for rushing a defended objective. Use the Palbot to trip Koalas or Mines, use Veteran to ignore Jammer, and you have a pretty good chance of rushing through someone's defense to attempt at least one button push.

    New PanO support box soon? That'd be nice...
     
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  4. andre61

    andre61 Well-Known Member

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    If the Machinist is in a link team, then he can't have a Palbot.
     
  5. Stiopa

    Stiopa Trust The Fuckhead

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    Yeah, but the option to tag an Engineer along can be useful, especially if you want to operate a TAG or some HIs together with a Bolt link (a fringe case right now, but who knows what's coming in the future).
     
  6. Death

    Death Well-Known Member

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    Now the question is, does this new machinist profile make me want to take a bolts fireteam? Sigh, I still wish bolts had a haris option. This change would be amazing then. Still, this link now costs only 100 points:

    Neoterran Capitaline Army
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    [​IMG]5
    BOLT Spitfire / Pistol, Knife. (1.5 | 24)
    BOLT Combi Rifle + Light Shotgun, Drop Bears / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 25)
    BOLT Boarding Shotgun, E/M Grenades / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 19)
    MACHINIST (NCA) (Bioimmunity, Veteran L1) Combi Rifle, D-Charges / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 16)
    MACHINIST (NCA) (Bioimmunity, Veteran L1) Combi Rifle, D-Charges / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 16)

    1.5 SWC | 100 Points

    Open in Infinity Army

    Or even cheaper:

    Neoterran Capitaline Army
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    [​IMG]5
    BOLT MULTI Sniper Rifle / Pistol, Knife. (1.5 | 26)
    BOLT Boarding Shotgun, E/M Grenades / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 19)
    BOLT Boarding Shotgun, E/M Grenades / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 19)
    MACHINIST (NCA) (Bioimmunity, Veteran L1) Combi Rifle, D-Charges / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 16)
    MACHINIST (NCA) (Bioimmunity, Veteran L1) Combi Rifle, D-Charges / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 16)

    1.5 SWC | 96 Points

    Open in Infinity Army

    Regardless of its actual effectiveness, I am quite happy that CB has finally listened to us and have given bolts an "engineer" option. They actually listened after all these long years of complaining. And I much prefer having linkable machinists that are cheap rather than a more expensive bolt engineer.

    P.S. Oh yeah, I forgot to note that machinist are now ava 2 in NCA. They use to be ava 1. ;)
     
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  7. barakiel

    barakiel Echo Bravo Master Sergeant

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    Never said he could :)
     
  8. andre61

    andre61 Well-Known Member

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    You're right, I read it wrong.
     
  9. RogueJello

    RogueJello Well-Known Member

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    Sorry, but what? Link teams are formed during the game and deployment, not list creation. So if I form a link with a machinist with a palbot, what happens?
     
  10. colbrook

    colbrook Grenade Delivery Specialist

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    Both assigning Servants and forming Fireteams happens at deployment, you can do one or the other, not both.
     
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  11. Leviathan

    Leviathan Hungry Caliban

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    Still only AVA 1 tho, so its one or the other.
     
  12. Death

    Death Well-Known Member

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    Ah shit, the machinist is back to being ava 1 in NCA. So you can put only one machinist in a bolt link. THAT SUCKS. Nevermind, this changes nothing. sigh. We need to petition CB to make machinist ava 2 in NCA. It really helps out bolt links.

    As it stands, bolts are still not worth taking.
     
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  13. Stiopa

    Stiopa Trust The Fuckhead

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    The difference between including a Machinist or BS Bolt are whole 3 points. It's a non-issue. The ability to advance with your Engineer at the same time you're advancing your assault link is changing a lot.

    Much better use for AVA 2 would be to include 1 in the link, and deploy second one with Palbots to increase coverage.

    And Bolts' problem is their lack of raison d'etre, or flexibility that comes with mixed links and Haris.
     
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  14. eciu

    eciu Easter worshiper

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    FTFY
     
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  15. Teslarod

    Teslarod when in doubt, Yeet

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    It's also a Mimetic Core Linked Combi... which otherwise only appears on Combi+LSG Profiles. Having a Spitfire, a Combi for Backup and 3 BSGs to keep the cost down (almost) makes for a somewhat decent Link.
    And the Machinist is a much better Specialist than any of the Bolt choices.
     
  16. McNamara

    McNamara Merc Rep

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    The NCA Machinist doesn't have Mimetism.
     
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  17. eciu

    eciu Easter worshiper

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    You mess up. Varuna Machinist is Mimetic, NCA one has "only" Bioimmunity and Veteran L1
     
  18. Stiopa

    Stiopa Trust The Fuckhead

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    Sure, if you're hell-bent on including two specialists in the link. I still don't think that this is such a big deal. I'd rather see a Bolt Haris.
     
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  19. eciu

    eciu Easter worshiper

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    Oh Botls Haris would be nice.

    But would doubt on that as there is something alongside this already in Varuna (Machinist+Patsy+Kamau HMG).
     
  20. Stiopa

    Stiopa Trust The Fuckhead

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    Well, NCA missed the update bus this time, but might catch another next year. I fully expect some more fireteam variety to come.
     
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