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Name three units per faction you'd want to change

Discussion in 'Access Guide to the Human Sphere' started by Stiopa, Sep 2, 2018.

  1. inane.imp

    inane.imp Well-Known Member

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    Sun Tzu makes this precise point. An underling incarcerated a Nomad Spec Ops team rather than executing them, with predictable results: SunTzu was not amused.

    That being said, I think the conversation is underestimating the cost or resurrection. It's still hideously expensive and out of reach for most people. In a lot of practical ways for the average person, dead is dead: even if you have a cube.

    The difference is that we're normally dealing with black ops organisations with budgets that cover this.
     
  2. Section9

    Section9 Well-Known Member

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    An AP round to the Cube should be able to physically destroy it. It's unlikely, since people don't usually shoot for the Cube, but it's possible.

    Similarly, massive trauma to the location of the Cube (say from a car accident) might do it, too.


    But there were immense insurance payouts for True Death (several times the cost of Resurrection!), which means it was a possibility. A rare possibility, for human-on-human violence, but still a significant one.


    Depends on how expensive Resurrection is to the authorities. It's certainly not cheap to the general public, what with a properly diversified portfolio of investments taking a century to afford the process. But anyone killed in a military action used to get Resurrected free-of-charge (before the EI War).

    Hauling a body back may be cheaper than Rezzing someone. I mean, Dirty Harry (sorry, Father Sforza) packs an ADHL!

    That's why you want a contract that defines the terms of retrieval.

    Say, like this one:
    Translation from local-specific terms: a 'derivative fork' is a purpose-made Cube-clone, it may be fully sophont but doesn't carry the full set of memories and skills that a 'full fork' does. 'Mind-state' is basically Cube, but it's separate from the recording equipment. Bounty numbers are broadly speaking in Dollar/GBP/Euro-equivalents. Yes, they are willing to spend 100k just to get a partial brain-copy of someone, and a million per full brain-copy. and 75k for proof-of-kill of a partial copy.

    They want this ... thing very, very dead, in the worst way. (The issuing setting would be horrified beyond belief at the YJ Kuang Shi program, that's basically a p-zombie or brain-spiking in their terms. Berserk-button horrified, in fact.)

    Or something like this:
    You are explicitly liable for any crimes planned before a Cube-cloning happens, because that was still 'you' that planned them. Plan a robbery, Fork, and then that fork also commits murder in the course of the robbery, you the planner are only on the hook for robbery (assuming that your plan did not call for such), while the fork that committed murder is also on the hook for that.

    I should point out that this is in a setting that is functionally immortal, not just from Cubes, but organically. That sentence of death on the Fork-ancestor was passed nearly 3000 years before the current timeline in-setting.
     
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  3. Solar

    Solar Well-Known Member

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    Yurika Oda takes out a Cube with her sword in the Dire Foes fiction. They're small pieces of advanced technology, basically a little computer. I imagine they're tough, but not that tough. And we're talking about the complexity of a human personality, memories etc. Any damage is going to be catastrophic.

    My sense is that Cubes are widespread in PanO/O-12, a bit less so in Yu Jing/Haqqislam and Minor Nations, and in some places even rarer. I reckon you still have to buy one, they aren't cheap, and if you die in a suitably gruesome and/or destructive fashion, they aint worth shit. Someone nails your head with a large calibre round or if you get hit by a high speed train, the Cube could be blown to smithereens. Also we know that E/M weaponry can completely screw them up, also lhost bodies are very expensive and actually getting resurrected takes more than just a cube, you need a full license which are much harder to come by.

    So yeah. Cubes; less of a deal than perhaps you'd first think IMO.
     
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