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N4 spoiler Su-Jian

Discussion in 'Yu Jing' started by Surmelk, Sep 9, 2020.

  1. Knauf

    Knauf Transhumanist

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    Another thing to consider is that with N4 terrain rules the Su Jian is going to be even faster.
     
  2. Mahtamori

    Mahtamori Well-Known Member

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    That's relative to what sort of terrain people put on their boards. If people keep putting the basic CB terrain or stuff from their partners, that stuff is pretty light on area terrain. What's good is that you're no longer forced to choose which terrain to have with Total Terrain like Multi-terrain demands of you.

    A solution CB could implement in the ITS scenario rules would be to have missions dictate whether certain board objects have a terrain zone. Say, for example, that in Supplies mission one of the consoles has a Forest zone in a 4" circle centred on it or in Capture and Protect the AC2 generates a Zero-G zone of similar size.
     
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  3. Triumph

    Triumph Well-Known Member

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    Mild downer but it appears that you can't use prone to get the Su Jian into an objective room anymore in N4. I still plan on utilising the HSG profile but not being able to clear objective rooms as effectively is a bit of a bummer.
     
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  4. wes-o-matic

    wes-o-matic feeelthy casual

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    You’re basing that on the Access Width rules in Code One?
     
  5. Triumph

    Triumph Well-Known Member

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    Yes, on the assumption that objective rooms keep their narrow access classification on their doors.
     
  6. Sedral

    Sedral Jīnshān Task Force Officier

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    Isn't there a thing in N4 that allows you to slip through doors and stuff up to half your base size? I remember reading something like that.
     
  7. Mahtamori

    Mahtamori Well-Known Member

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    There is, it's in the requirements for Move. However, you will also find this in the access width rules:

    IMPORTANT:
    The Access Width rule always takes priority over the General Movement Rules and the Requirements of Skills with the Movement label. If a Trooper does not have the Silhouette Attribute a specific access requires, the Trooper will not be able to go through it.
     
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  8. Teslarod

    Teslarod when in doubt, Yeet

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    For what it's worth that also only applies to things half your base width, but not to things half your S height. Still need to go Prone to pass through an arc slightly smaller than your S. Mostly relevant for TAGs or for passing things with holes lower than your S when you don't want to vault them.
     
  9. Amusedbymuse

    Amusedbymuse Well-Known Member

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    STR units no longer have second unconscius state so no more cheating with Su Jian NWI ;(
     
  10. ijw

    ijw Ian Wood aka the Wargaming Trader. Rules & Wiki
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    Huh? STR and Remote Presence still gives two levels of Unconscious.
     
  11. Amusedbymuse

    Amusedbymuse Well-Known Member

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    My bad, I only read STR rules where it states that reaching 0 wounds/str points puts you into unc state and falling below 0 wounds/str puts you in dead state. But after reading your response I checked Remote presence nad yes, there are 2 unc states for remotes. In that case Su jian can still cheat with NWI but manned tags insta die at 4th damage. Thanks for clarification :)
     
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  12. Space Ranger

    Space Ranger Well-Known Member

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  13. Joametz

    Joametz Chinese Empire in Space enthusiast

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    But Su Jian appears to no longer have Remote Presence

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  14. Aldo

    Aldo Spare 15

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    Looks like a bug
     
  15. Joametz

    Joametz Chinese Empire in Space enthusiast

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    Hopefully, but other profiles with the skill show it properly.
     
  16. Akrythael

    Akrythael New Member

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    Su-Jian has been updated in the Army builder and got Remote Presence back. Yay!
     
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