N4 hacking in YJ

Tema en 'Yu Jing' iniciado por zapp, 18 Sep 2020.

  1. Triumph

    Triumph Well-Known Member

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    Think of it like this, if you were ok bringing a 19pt Zhanshi before to buff your Rui Shi, well now you can bring a 15pt EVO instead. Congrats, you saved 4pts.

    Fucking RIP Teampro though and my Vanilla Duos.
     
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    RIP (at least, for as far as we know) Hac Tao KHD. It was one of my favourite profiles in the game.
     
  3. inane.imp

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    It's also a significant buff to PanO where EVOs where already their best support Hackers, and often you saw EVO + KHDs only in PanO lists. In YJ (and Nomads) where HDs often fulfilled multiple roles then streamlining Hacking has downsides to N3 list design.

    That being said:
    * I'd absolutely predict some Supportware to propagate onto fleshy-Hackers as Upgrades (Hackers like Gromez in particularly are begging for that sort of differentiation).
    * NCO makes Marker state Hacker LTs solid choices; and that's before you look at Spotlight orders.
    * Vanilla Duos being the rule rather than the result of a program is IMO quite likely.
    * Various upgrade programs are missing from this ecosystem, N3 went overboard with it but I still expect to see some (albeit most will likely be [Program](+3WIP/-3WIP/+1B)). In particular I'd expect to see a B1 DAM program.
    * We don't know how Cybermask actually works; it's possible that things can start Cybermasked.
     
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  4. Amusedbymuse

    Amusedbymuse Well-Known Member

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    Oh no no no. KHD is basically the only Hac Tao i ever used and i loved every seond of doing so!
     
  5. Alphz

    Alphz Kuang Shi Vet. Retired.

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    I just converted one! And was really excited to use it!
     
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    Mahtamori Well-Known Member

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    Do we know if KHDs even have the Firewall-busting effect or if it is just a HD with exclusivity rights to doing damage while hacking?
     
  7. Triumph

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    I don't recall anything being said either way about it
     
  8. inane.imp

    inane.imp Well-Known Member

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    I *really* hope the latter.
     
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  9. Amusedbymuse

    Amusedbymuse Well-Known Member

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    Considering that tinbots are now firewalls giving KHD ability to ignore all defensive tools against them is a little bit too much.
    Tinbots being firewall is weird altogether, it doesn't stack anymore with fairy dust or getting hacked by your own repeater as it used to.
     
  10. Sedral

    Sedral Jīnshān Task Force Officier

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    We don't know that yet. Tinbot all have a modifiers (see the EVAders profiles), fairy dust could just add another -3. Just like how mimetism and cover stacks.
     
  11. the huanglong

    the huanglong Well-Known Member

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    Do we know if Fairy Dust will stack or synergize with the tinbot firewall? It seems like the hacking protection offered by tinbots to yu jing has gone down a bit but they are still easy to add.

    Can I see it?
     
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  12. Alphz

    Alphz Kuang Shi Vet. Retired.

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    Nothing to write home about. Another purge of unused swords
     

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  13. Amusedbymuse

    Amusedbymuse Well-Known Member

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    Is that nanocoltpulser? xD
     
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  14. Sedral

    Sedral Jīnshān Task Force Officier

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    Since you ripped kokram's arm, I kinda want to see him with the sword now!
     
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  15. Alphz

    Alphz Kuang Shi Vet. Retired.

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    Hmmm!

    I have a far fetched plan to give ol' ram a fueurbach. But not really tackling that until it looks like he might be useful.

    The hac Tao sword is a fine specimen
     
  16. Alphz

    Alphz Kuang Shi Vet. Retired.

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    Yeah! I imagine him as being like an old school vet who prefers the more tactile feel
     
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  17. Triumph

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    The Guilang FO profile is 26, it actually went down 1pt from the N3 version. The deployable repeater moved off the FO profile to the Minelayer profile who went up one point to 27pts. I think the point change is the deployable repeater moving.

    If that goes through that's a fucking massive change for Yu Jing in the hacking game. Having the ability to start with infiltrated repeaters up and running without needing to spend an order is a fucking huge deal, we'd literally jump tiers in hacking prowess overnight.
     
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  18. Amusedbymuse

    Amusedbymuse Well-Known Member

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    Did minelayer lose mines? Is there any unit in n3 with minelayer and 2 or more deployable weapons? If yes do you deploy both or just 1?
     
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    Benkei Well-Known Member

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    Kokram has E/M Mines and repeaters, Guilang still has Mines along with repeaters
     
  20. Triumph

    Triumph Well-Known Member

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    They appear to have both, although they're still listed as antipersonnel mines and not the new lingo of Shock/AP mines.

    Muyibs have Emaulers and regular mines in N3, believe it's you pick 1 to deploy as you may only use the skill once during set up. @ijw can correct me if I've fucked that up.
     
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