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N4 ALEPH Lieutenant Options

Discussion in 'ALEPH' started by Methuselah, Oct 22, 2020.

  1. Methuselah

    Methuselah Well-Known Member

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    With Vanilla still missing SP profiles, I am wondering what everyone thinks the best LT option is. I am between Hector and Marut because they both bring 3 orders on capable platforms. Hector brings one more regular order and is cheaper, but Marut is probably better as an active turn killer and ARO piece. Wondering what your thoughts are on this and on all vanilla LT options.
     
  2. Iver

    Iver Human Plus

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    It really depends on your preferences. The big names are of course Achilles, the Marut, Hector, and the Asura, but our cheaper options are definitely also worth mentioning.

    Achilles role is murder pure and simple. The one man A-team will eat your entire order pool turn one in an alpha strike that's likely to remove half your opponents models from the table before he can even act. I'm not personally a great fan of the rambo strategy, but it's certainly effective and few does it even close to as well as the golden boy. His mimitism (-6) option is still one of the best gunfighters in the game, even better now that he gets to keep cover the entire game (and has a cooler figurine)

    The Marut is our only TAG and if it's in a list it is nearly always your lieutenant as the boon of Strategos lvl2 is nothing to scoff at. The marut with it's amazing MULTI HMG and MSV2 can tear apart even the most frustrating ARO especially with smoke suppory, and be a scary defensive piece as well due to its bulk, ability to ignore smoke shenanigans, and weapon's ability to fire an explosive round in your defensive phase. Always remember, though, to try and not build her into a limited insertion list. You want to make use of her strategos lvl2 and move models into your main group for free as turns go to keep her and your button pushers full of orders.

    Hector is really neat. And going to be even cooler when we get SP back and he can go into fireteams again. In vanilla you don't neccessarily have to try and get value out of him turn one. He provides 3 regular orders all on his own and plays well as a unit you can keep back turn one and run up with a more disposable threat like the newly improved posthuman mk3 to avoid losing him early and then go in later and take names with his excellent plasma rifle (burst 3 impact template weapon that rolls both armor and BTS destroys most linkteams). A great leader, patient killer, and a safe choice. That's our Hector.

    The Asura lieutenant has a much similar role to the Marut as our lieutenant. Unlike OSS we don't have access to her hacker profile if we want her to lead our army, so the only real option here is the Spitfire. This means her primary job is running around hunting camo markers and picking apart enemy reactive units. For that job i'd personally just pay the extra thirty points and have the big robot to play with.

    As for our "cheaper" options, the Deva comes first to mind. She's our cheapest option, and you can have multiples around to force your opponent into the guessing game of "who's your lieutenant". She's a tad expensive for that job since Aleph doesn't really have a cheap linetrooper option, but her NWI can come in useful at times.

    Shakti is solid. She pushes buttons, goes into camo state to defend herself, has a solid statline with two wounds, and has a good gun. She does many of the things that the hacker Asura does, except not having the MSV that allows the Asura to even out unfair firefights. Shakti is still a good specialist lieutenant for her price and an excellent killer hacker.

    The basic Yadu lieutenant is not super interesting to me. It's a decent elite with a good close quarters weapon loadout in its MULTI rifle, E-marat and drop bears. It's jsut a bit risky to try to navigate her into the range where she is most useful. The biggest boon with the Yadu is that she's as tough as a lighter heavy infantry without being hackable.

    And last but definitely not least is generally my preferred lieutenant in vanilla aleph right now, the humble Myrmidon Officer. For less than 30pts you've got a very safe lieutenant. Mimetism(-6), NWI, smoke grenades, a weapon that lets them go suppressive, and a great CC all without being hackable. There aren't many strategies your opponents can safely employ to take this beauty out. Can't isolate them with hacking, trying to assassinate them in melee is very risky due to how proficient they are, and even if taken by surprise by an enemy they dodge well supported by their high mimetism and extra dodge distance allowing them to easier get back into full cover, all the while supporting the rest of your army with smoke. If you're not bringing one of our big gun lieutenants, i can't recommend this option enough.

    I hope this was helpful, the list of options will increase a lot when we get SP back and there are some great lieutenant options among those.
     
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  3. xagroth

    xagroth Mournful Echo

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    Before OSS, my preferred N3 Lt was the Deva, either 24pts Sensor or 27pts Deva+Devabot. I'll elaborate:

    First, the Sensor Deva is a combi-toting discover machine (WIP15, bonuses...) and the tirangulated fire option can be useful if you want good odds shooting against a melee, or a hail mary shoot at max combi range.

    Second, the Deva+Devabot is a syncronized unit with a disposable flunky, they both have template weapons and can do Intuitive shots, one of which burns.

    Anyway, I'll happily carry a Myrmidon Officer as Chain of Command for extra security, despite having 3-7 regular orders in LoL (3x veteran Netrods, 4 command tokens); in that regard, a Limited Insertion list with a Marut can survive a turn without a Chain of Command if you are careful.

    Hector is a Lt I would never use in vanilla, he wants to be linked and provides extra tools to HI links, and unlinked you are paying an Asura's cost for an extra order... I prefer to bring the Asura and use her offensivelym be it with the Spitfire or as a H+ with Trinity (giving her good options against any and all hackers, at least in active turn... in reactive she should be in Marker state).
     
  4. Iver

    Iver Human Plus

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    We've lost the Deva sensor lieutenant though. That one only has triangulated fire and no sensor now.

    Hector might have buffs for HI in Enomotarchos links, but the only heavy boy he can link with is Ajax. I usually just used to have him run with two Dactyles. And if all you end up fishing for through the sectorial is the +1 burst, i don't see why he's so much better in SP than he is in Vanilla. I mostly just like that he is a solid troop that provides 3 orders. That's never bad.

    It's too bad we can have neither the Asura hacker lt nor the Shukra lt in vanilla. Those are amazing.
     
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  5. Zenmuron

    Zenmuron New Member

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    Just a question. Hector now has both Strategos L1 and +1Order. Does that mean that he can use both Lt Orders as regular ones??
     
  6. xagroth

    xagroth Mournful Echo

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    That must be a bug: not only makes the Lt obvious, but the profile is in IS:

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    The wonderful "Wildcard" concept allows him to link with Achilles too... (RAW, any of the two profiles, since both have Duo). But where he shines is with the support of 1-2 Dactyls (for 20pts getting his own engineer or medic is a bargain).

    It hasn't been clarified, but the consensus is that yes.
     
  7. c3gorach

    c3gorach Active Member

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    The first team I want to try is Hector Lt. (3 Orders) + Acmon (2 Orders) + Ajax (or maybe Phoenix) for the lulz :sweat_smile:
     
  8. Axelius

    Axelius Not a Rogue AI

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    I mean, Hector doesn't need to be in the same team as Ajax, he can just use his Strategos to convert the orders into regular ones and tell the big meaty boi to go bash stuff on the other side of the board.
     
  9. c3gorach

    c3gorach Active Member

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    True.
     
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