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My last hope for MO

Discussion in 'PanOceania' started by andre61, Aug 14, 2019.

  1. meikyoushisui

    meikyoushisui Competitor for Most Ignored User

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    I think per point the Bagh Mari MSR might edge out against the FK, and I would definitely put the Swissle higher than it as well. Not that the linked FK is bad, it's absolutely the best in MO.
     
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  2. andre61

    andre61 Well-Known Member

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    So! after reading every here I came up with this list, not sure about this one, but I have my linked FK with ML and a OS that is linked with a HRL for ARO work.

    Holy Room Raiders
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    FATHER-KNIGHT Lieutenant Spitfire / Breaker Pistol, DA CCW. (2 | 50)
    FATHER-KNIGHT Missile Launcher / Breaker Pistol, DA CCW. (1.5 | 49)
    KNIGHT OF SANTIAGO Hacker (Killer Hacking Device) Combi Rifle, Nanopulser, D-Charges + 1 TinBot A (Deflector L1) / Pistol, DA CCW. (0 | 38)
    BLACK FRIAR (Albedo, Biometric Visor L1) MULTI Rifle, Nanopulser, Drop Bears / Pistol, CC Weapon. (0 | 28)
    ORDER SERGEANT Heavy Rocket Launcher / Assault Pistol, Knife. (1.5 | 15)
    SPEC. SERGEANT (CH: TO Camouflage, Infiltration, Forward Observer) Combi Rifle, Antipersonnel Mines / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 27)
    TRAUMA-DOC (Father-Doctor) Combi Rifle / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 14)
    PALBOT Electric Pulse. (0 | 3)
    MACHINIST (Father-Engineer) Combi Rifle, D-Charges / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 15)
    PALBOT Electric Pulse. (0 | 3)
    CRUSADER MULTI Rifle + Light Flamethrower / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 31)
    PEACEMAKER Spitfire + AUXBOT_3 / Electric Pulse. (1 | 27)
    [​IMG] AUXBOT_3 Heavy Flamethrower / Electric Pulse. (- | 4)

    6 SWC | 300 Points

    Open in Infinity Army
     
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  3. Judge Dredd

    Judge Dredd Well-Known Member

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    I would worry about role confusion of your link team. It cant be in 2 places at once and you have all of your eggs in the basket.
     
  4. vicen85

    vicen85 Well-Known Member

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    Why do most of you complete Sergeant Core with the Black Friar? Does the Black Friar get to do something during the game?
     
  5. colbrook

    colbrook Black Fryer

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    Having a potential 6th member of the team that can be used to reform it after taking a casualty is super handy.

    For example, once your opponent finally takes down the FK ML you left covering the approach to an objective, you can reform the Fireteam to give the Santiago Knight that sweet +3 BS.
     
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  6. MikeTheScrivener

    MikeTheScrivener O-12 Peace Kepper

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    It also doesn't hurt that he gets to start +4 inches up the board, where the link will probably end up anyway.

    He's also super handy for dealing with infiltrators, smoke chuckers, and vis-mod enemies. He also brings drop bears to defend your link in the middle of the board where they'll probably be ending their turn because you only have so few orders to work with. He's the Swiss army knife. Not to mention he can score various Classified cards being MI and having a Visor – I find him invaluable when making an MO list.
     
    #46 MikeTheScrivener, Aug 16, 2019
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  7. Doa

    Doa Well-Known Member

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    Talking about msv2 and os fireteam, what is your best choice? Black friar or Koni?
     
  8. colbrook

    colbrook Black Fryer

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    Black Friar, due to his Drop Bears, Albedo, and Multi Rifle. Even to Biovisor is sometimes useful.
     
  9. andre61

    andre61 Well-Known Member

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    I could not have said it better, Thanks guys.
     
  10. daboarder

    daboarder Force One Commander
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    I like the list andre but consider a spitfire lt. Its another specialist in the list and its 360 visor is very useful given you want to maximize your board presence
     
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  11. colbrook

    colbrook Black Fryer

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    I assume you mean Spitfire Santiago Lt. as he already has the FK Spitfire Lt.
     
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  12. andre61

    andre61 Well-Known Member

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    So! I just wanted to let everyone know I'm feeling much better about playing MO, with this list I won a game this weekend


    joan's Holy room Raiders
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    JOAN OF ARC Lieutenant MULTI Rifle, Nanopulser / Pistol, DA CCW. (+1 | 50)
    KNIGHT HOSPITALLER HMG / Pistol, DA CCW. (2 | 39)
    KNIGHT HOSPITALLER HMG / Pistol, DA CCW. (2 | 39)
    KNIGHT HOSPITALLER Doctor (MediKit) Combi Rifle / Pistol, DA CCW. (0 | 35)
    KNIGHT HOSPITALLER Boarding Shotgun / Pistol, DA CCW. (0 | 31)
    SPEC. SERGEANT Hacker (Hacking Device) Combi Rifle / Pistol, Knife. (0.5 | 21)
    SPEC. SERGEANT (CH: TO Camouflage, Infiltration, Forward Observer) Combi Rifle, Antipersonnel Mines / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 27)
    ORDER SERGEANT Heavy Rocket Launcher / Assault Pistol, Knife. (1.5 | 15)
    MACHINIST (Father-Engineer) Combi Rifle, D-Charges / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 15)
    PALBOT Electric Pulse. (0 | 3)
    SIERRA DRONBOT HMG / Electric Pulse. (1 | 25)

    7 SWC | 300 Points

    Open in Infinity Army

    Thanks everyone for your feed back
     
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  13. Luisjoey

    Luisjoey High Marshall of Wotan
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    Too much Hospitallier, you need more points for other stuff reduce to 2 hospitalliers and fill with other guys, would be better for you.

    think of magister knights!
     
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  14. Teslarod

    Teslarod Trebuchet Enthusiast

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    Can't build a Core Link with Hospitalers ang Magisters anymore.

    Damn shame but that's about the best you can pull off by limiting yourself to a Joan+4 crutch.
     
  15. Nomadimp

    Nomadimp Well-Known Member

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    Yeah I’m pretty much of the opinion that the Joan crusader link is probably only for non standard ITS formats like greater than 300 points. It just doesn’t work well at all when I’ve tried it.
     
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  16. Ayadan

    Ayadan Knight of the TAG Order

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    The Crusade FT is just absurdly strong in 400pts. CB doesn't make its sectorials only for 300pts games but also for 400pts ones. And I think this is something good.
     
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  17. vicen85

    vicen85 Well-Known Member

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    A good player can defeat the Crusader FT on almost facctions.
    Is not easy, but they CAN do It, I saw a lot of times.

    On 400 pts list the only change is that your enemy have more tools for stop your FT.

    If I play against this Doom Fireteam I try to do some think that I Know that work because someone use this angainst me or other MO playera (is important understand that neutralizating the FT sometimes is better and easy than destroy all the Knigths if FT):

    - Smoke: If your enemy have smoke can use It for block the LoV and complete the maxium of the objetives. An army with the Crusader FT have a few specialist, and they can't be on all the objetives if they must go to all the places and supere the WIP rolls only with 10 orders.
    - A lot of Cammo: Ignore the FT sometimes is the best way to win. The FT is ok only place at time, if your army have a lot of Cammo especialist, and minelayer the FT probably spem to much orders moving, doging, and Discovers the Cammo token. You can ingnore, and try to active more objetives tha the FT.
    - Hacking/EM ammo: There's some tropos (infiltration, Cammo, AD) that can get closer to the link and use Oblivion, or Blizten or E/Mauler. Hard, not impossible.
    - INM-1/2 to FT Leader: There are only one enginier on MO, and has WIP12. STOP the leader stop the Link.
    - ODD/TO: A Offensive troop can impose this -6 and kill the FT one by one. Expensive of Order but possible.

    I only say that I Think There are better and funier ways to play MO that use Crusader FT.
     
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  18. Ayadan

    Ayadan Knight of the TAG Order

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    At 400 pts, the MO guy gets also more points to deploy what is needed to support such deathstar. The link costs 202 pts with 2 HMG and a Santiago KHD. This leaves you 2 SWC and 198 points for support and defense. That's enough to get what you need.
     
  19. vicen85

    vicen85 Well-Known Member

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    Not to get a funtional 20 order list.

    Of course is only my personal opinion about Crusader FT on 400 pts list (or 300, I feel the same).
     
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  20. Teslarod

    Teslarod Trebuchet Enthusiast

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    The Crusader Fireteam is supremely bad.
    Not because of the troops who can join it - those are definitely some of MO's best choices - but because you need 5 people alive to reform it.
    That ruins all synergy with Joan dropping 4 Fireteam members into SF at the end of a turn and then rebuilding next turn.
    As well as the usual problem of "Link broken & someone dead".
     
    #60 Teslarod, Aug 27, 2019
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