Because no Order Sergeant in a Magister link, whereas one OS is allowed in a Teuton link... Yes, that's sad and stupid. I do like the many new ways to form links, but there always should be a "1+..." (Teutonic Knight, Magister Knight, etc.) in the link text. Simple and effective.
I'd say that's people not adjusting to the fact that you can run a knight Haris in the sectorial yet (with defensive OS Core), and a Combi Teuton has that skill + Specialist Operative. Though one may argue Hospitaller Haris would be better. Note that in those lists almost no one takes advantage of the new and improved Seraph either, when a super-jumping HMG TAG for 79 pts feels like a no-brainer.
So... very much? ;) But TA seems to be a YJ thing for now, either as a planned flavour ar Yeah, good catch. Actually, I think Teuton is a good Spitfire choice for that team. More SWC, but NCO might be handy.
for a spitfire platform santiagos are such a better option: spec E/M grenades on a 10, nanopulser, D charge, spécialist lol then even have a better CC weapon !!! and only cost 4pts more
Are you not entertained by the CB approach to new good Teutons ? They removed so many options in MO so you could finally have an excuse to include Teutons. Ungrateful people all around....
Or mayby everything is better than Teutons ? See how Hospitallers were removed from linkability just to give any chance for anyone bringing Teutons. And then people realize that Teutons CORE is actually apparently better without any Teutons (sic!). Funny enough Hospitallers were even prohibited from taking Magisters into their Haris in apparent goal to give Teuton Haris any meaningful reason to be taken. Funny enough Hospitallers at least got good CCW (DA) in a process when Teutons were left with AP Berserk of "what am I supposed to attack with this weapon?".
Well it's for sure nice that the guy providing Haris is a Doctor specialist (with DA), that's for sure (it would be golden with linkable Magisters though).
Fixing MO would be so easy.... 2 Magisters can join any Core Link. Konstantinos gets a MO exclusive CoC Profile MA1 for FK DA CCWs for Teutons There done. NOW I'd be happy to pay 13 points for my Orders.
Without any other changes to how it was before or after applying all those that have gone live now? I.e. would those DA CCW Teutons be linkable? I'll be honest that I'd rather have FK as the everybody's Wildcard friend rather than Santiago, even if he was a lot more expensive. Unless I am mistaken and Father-Knights are supposed to be from Order of Calatrava, it would fit better thematically to have the generic chaplain everywhere rather than a visiting member from a completely different Order. Takes away some of the Santiago identity IMO.
I think that the Father Knights are part of every Order. They're ordained priests, not just sworn Knights.
Well, I know feelings are...difficult right now, but I don't want to give up the sectorial as I believe that we are still strong. I've been making tons of lists and there are a few I want to try and will try soon (probably this weekend) both with and without TAG: List 1 ────────────────────────────────────────────────── 10 2 KNIGHT OF SANTIAGO Lieutenant (Specialist Operative) Spitfire, Nanopulser, E/M Grenades, D-Charges / Pistol, DA CCW. (1 | 43) TEUTONIC KNIGHT (NCO) Spitfire / Pistol, AP CCW. (2 | 39) KNIGHT OF SANTIAGO Hacker (Killer Hacking Device) Combi Rifle, Nanopulser, D-Charges + 1 TinBot A (Deflector L1) / Pistol, DA CCW. (0 | 38) MAGISTER KNIGHT Panzerfaust, Light Shotgun / Pistol, DA CCW. (0 | 23) MAGISTER KNIGHT Panzerfaust, Light Shotgun / Pistol, DA CCW. (0 | 23) KNIGHT OF THE HOLY SEPULCHRE (Chain of Command) Breaker Combi Rifle / Pistol, DA CCW. (0 | 52) SPEC. SERGEANT Heavy Rocket Launcher + AUXBOT_1 / Assault Pistol, Knife. (1.5 | 19) AUXBOT_1 Heavy Flamethrower / Electric Pulse. (- | 4) SPEC. SERGEANT Heavy Rocket Launcher + AUXBOT_1 / Assault Pistol, Knife. (1.5 | 19) AUXBOT_1 Heavy Flamethrower / Electric Pulse. (- | 4) SPEC. SERGEANT Combi Rifle + AUXBOT_1 / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 17) AUXBOT_1 Heavy Flamethrower / Electric Pulse. (- | 4) SPEC. SERGEANT (CH: TO Camouflage, Infiltration, Forward Observer) Combi Rifle, Antipersonnel Mines / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 27) 6 SWC | 300 Points Open in Infinity Army A core of Santiago+Teuton NCO + Magister. With two Spitfires and being able to use the order of Lt in the link and not losing the power as the NCO also has a Spitfire, it's a good core with 2 specialists and in case a TAG or a big IP appears, the two panzerfaust should be able to deal with it or scare it. I even have points for a Sepulchre as the core link will be aggresive and it's more than easy to have my Lt killed. Lastly, a TOFOOS for pressing buttons and laying mines, two SS with HRL and Auxbot for ORA and one SS with Auxbot for covering my DZ. 16 wounds and 11 orders with 4 specialists. Tikbalang List ────────────────────────────────────────────────── 10 TIKBALANG OF MONTESA (Religious Troop) AP HMG, Heavy Flamethrower / DA CCW. (2 | 92) CRABBOT Flash Pulse / Knife. () FATHER-KNIGHT Lieutenant (Forward Observer) Combi Rifle / Breaker Pistol, DA CCW. (0 | 45) KNIGHT OF SANTIAGO Hacker (Killer Hacking Device) Combi Rifle, Nanopulser, D-Charges + 1 TinBot A (Deflector L1) / Pistol, DA CCW. (0 | 38) ORDER SERGEANT Heavy Rocket Launcher / Assault Pistol, Knife. (1.5 | 15) ORDER SERGEANT Heavy Rocket Launcher / Assault Pistol, Knife. (1.5 | 15) ORDER SERGEANT Paramedic (MediKit) Combi Rifle / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 15) SIERRA DRONBOT HMG / Electric Pulse. (1 | 25) SPEC. SERGEANT Combi Rifle + AUXBOT_1 / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 17) AUXBOT_1 Heavy Flamethrower / Electric Pulse. (- | 4) SPEC. SERGEANT Combi Rifle + AUXBOT_1 / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 17) AUXBOT_1 Heavy Flamethrower / Electric Pulse. (- | 4) MACHINIST (Father-Engineer) Combi Rifle, D-Charges / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 15) PALBOT Electric Pulse. (0 | 3) PALBOT Electric Pulse. (0 | 3) 6 SWC | 300 Points Open in Infinity Army This one is more straightforward. Tik for eating orders and pushing in the first two turns with the core in ORA duty along the Sierra and the two SS with Auxbot covering the DZ. In turn 3 the core can advance to press buttons if needed. Lastly the machinist with two palbots in order to repair the Sierra and even the Tik if needed. The only issue with this list is that I don't have a normal Hacking Device to give the Sierra MML2. Core OS + Dart + 2 TOFOOS + Sierra Peacemaker ────────────────────────────────────────────────── 10 FATHER-KNIGHT Lieutenant Spitfire / Breaker Pistol, DA CCW. (2 | 50) FATHER-KNIGHT (Forward Observer) Combi Rifle / Breaker Pistol, DA CCW. (0 | 45) KNIGHT OF SANTIAGO Hacker (Killer Hacking Device) Combi Rifle, Nanopulser, D-Charges + 1 TinBot A (Deflector L1) / Pistol, DA CCW. (0 | 38) ORDER SERGEANT Heavy Rocket Launcher / Assault Pistol, Knife. (1.5 | 15) ORDER SERGEANT Heavy Rocket Launcher / Assault Pistol, Knife. (1.5 | 15) SPEC. SERGEANT (CH: TO Camouflage, Infiltration, Forward Observer) Combi Rifle, Antipersonnel Mines / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 27) SPEC. SERGEANT (CH: TO Camouflage, Infiltration, Forward Observer) Combi Rifle, Antipersonnel Mines / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 27) DART Submachine Gun, Viral Tactical Bow, E/M Grenades / Pistol, Shock CC Weapon, Knife. (0 | 34) SIERRA DRONBOT HMG / Electric Pulse. (1 | 25) PEACEMAKER Heavy Shotgun + AUXBOT_3 / Electric Pulse. (0 | 21) AUXBOT_3 Heavy Flamethrower / Electric Pulse. (- | 4) 6 SWC | 297 Points Open in Infinity Army This one is centered around the "OS" core with 2 father-knights and the two HRL, acting both as a defensive and offensive link. Two TOFOOS, Dart and the Peacemaker should give good cover and control on the middle section of the table and the Sierra can offer some ORA protection. And lastly, with more of a "fun" mindset, this piece of art: Doble Seraph ────────────────────────────────────────────────── 10 SERAPH HMG, 2 Nanopulsers / EXP CCW. (2 | 79) CRABBOT Flash Pulse / Knife. () SERAPH HMG, 2 Nanopulsers / EXP CCW. (2 | 79) CRABBOT Flash Pulse / Knife. () FATHER-KNIGHT Lieutenant Spitfire / Breaker Pistol, DA CCW. (2 | 50) ORDER SERGEANT Paramedic (MediKit) Combi Rifle / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 15) ORDER SERGEANT Combi Rifle / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 13) ORDER SERGEANT Combi Rifle / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 13) ORDER SERGEANT Combi Rifle / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 13) MACHINIST (Father-Engineer) Combi Rifle, D-Charges / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 15) PALBOT Electric Pulse. (0 | 3) PALBOT Electric Pulse. (0 | 3) MULEBOT (Minesweeper, Repeater) Electric Pulse. (0 | 8) MULEBOT (Minesweeper, Repeater) Electric Pulse. (0 | 8) 6 SWC | 299 Points Open in Infinity Army Because who needs knights and shit when you can have two Seraph?
In that last list I would drop FK Spitfire to FO Lt just to get an HRL into the link, so it can properly defend. It would also allow all the other OS to be Paramedics.
It depends on who goes first, but if that happens, I will try to kill it with a Panzerfaust from long range or try to reach optimal Spitfire distance using cover. If that MSR/ML is not linked I can always risk the HRL SS and see who dies first :D
On a side note, I just finished gluing the Montesa from ASA starter. Beautiful model, shame about it getting scrapped, but I think it's a perfect Teuton proxy.
I'm planning getting a second one soon, mostly for the Regulars. Will sell of the Akal and convert a second Teuton, with a Combi. This should be enough for all my Teuton needs.
