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Military Orders Rework?

Discussion in 'PanOceania' started by Palomides, Oct 14, 2018.

  1. MrNailbrain

    MrNailbrain Relentless Optimist

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    Ajax also has the option to NBW instead of berserk, making the roll F2F against those CC nasties and bringing them down to his level. The Teutons don’t have that flexibility as they lack MA or NBW. Admittedly, Ajax pays a higher price than the Teutons do, but that added level of defense and options pays some dividends.
     
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  2. Skoll

    Skoll Well-Known Member
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    3 points gets ajax a wealth of advantages, that's for sure.
     
  3. MrNailbrain

    MrNailbrain Relentless Optimist

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    Yeah after I posted I had to edit from “pays a much higher price” because i bothered to check the price tags. I think characters get a bit of a price break because you can’t spam them, but 3 points is pretty cheap for what you get.
     
  4. jfunkd

    jfunkd Rebel Myrmidon Graffiti Artist
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    IMO Ajax's shiloutte value entitles him to a price break over a S2 unit, it may not be worth the break he gets, but it's a significant detriment with few redeeming qualities.
     
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  5. colbrook

    colbrook Black Fryer

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    Full blown Impetuous rather than Frenzy can make it hard to close the distance outside of Steel Phallus too.
     
  6. AdmiralJCJF

    AdmiralJCJF Heart of the Hyperpower
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    Are you arguing that this is good?

    Because given the costs of the units involved, it doesn't look very good.
     
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  7. Section9

    Section9 Well-Known Member

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    What TAG is "good" in CC?
    • Best TAG in CC is the O-Yoroi, and it's CC21 MA1 EXP CCW.
    • Gorgos is CC18 Shock.
    • Marut is CC18 AP.
    • Avatar is CC18 DA.
    • Overdron and Xeodrons are only CC14.
    • Raicho is CC19.
    • Sphinx is CC18 EXP.
    • Geckos are CC15.
    • Iguanas are CC16.
    • Lizards are CC17.
    • Szalamandra are CC17.
    • Maghariba Guard are CC16.
    • Guijia is CC19.
    • Uhlan is CC15.
    • Cutter is CC18.
    • Drago is CC18.
    • Jotum is CC18.
    • Seraph is CC20 EXP.
    • Squalo is CC18.
    • Tikbalang is CC17 AP.
    • Anaconda is CC16.
    • Scarface is CC19 AP with Assault.
    Defining 'good' as CC>=19, that gives us Scarface, Seraph, Guijia, Raicho, and O-Yoroi. Sphinx and Avatar may sneak in due to CCWs (and sneak attack on the Sphinx).
     
  8. RogueJello

    RogueJello Well-Known Member

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    Seraph because of Burst 2 in CC from the Auxbot.
     
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  9. Mikes

    Mikes Well-Known Member

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    This. I've given more than one opponent a nasty shock this this.
     
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  10. Judge Dredd

    Judge Dredd Well-Known Member
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    Surprise attack from a CC18 exp Tag isnt pleasant either.
     
  11. eciu

    eciu Easter worshiper

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    CC >= 20 with EXP is great CC TAG. Most of them has CC around 17 so that with at least DA (and PH 16) gives you great odds on killing Tueton due to unopposed roll.
     
  12. Titus

    Titus Varuna Beach Commando

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    I was just thinking...

    With Santiago wildcard, it means we can now have a fireteam core with DeFersen + Juana + 3 Santiago Knights?
     
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  13. eciu

    eciu Easter worshiper

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    Apparently, but I would take Doctor instead of full 3 Santiagos.
     
  14. herod1204

    herod1204 Knight of Santiago

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    I would also be inclined to take a hmg over the Santiago spitfire, given de fersen has one. Leaving us with just the khd again, which is no bad thing!

    Sent from my SM-A520F using Tapatalk
     
  15. Titus

    Titus Varuna Beach Commando

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    Stop being silly.

    I don't want dirty regular hospitaliers in my glorious Santiago Knights link.
     
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  16. herod1204

    herod1204 Knight of Santiago

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    This is my issue with the remake actually. I've very deliberately painted everything up to be a Santiago task force. Everyone else is there on sufferance.
     
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  17. Minos

    Minos Νίκη ἢ Θάνατος
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    Ha ha! I used to play Santiagos when everybody played Hospitallers, just because I loved the minis. My Magister Knights and Sergeants are Santiago.
    I was on the hype train and I didn't know ;-)
     
  18. herod1204

    herod1204 Knight of Santiago

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    I am painting mine even as I type! [​IMG]

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  19. Ixidro

    Ixidro Deep agent infiltrated in PanOceanian HQ

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    That's an awesome painted knight! Very crisp brushwork, sir.

    I'm still torn between buying the new magisters or the old sculpts. I don't mind mixing old sculpts and new sculpts (I purchased 2 santiagos and 3 Teutons when the changes were leaked) but I don't want to have the same unit with mixing sizes (if we assume there's another magister sculpt in the eventually renewed MO starter box). The new magisters lost all the momentum the old sculpts had: try to convince me the new magisters have hyperdinamics I dare you CB!
     
  20. Section9

    Section9 Well-Known Member

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    Looking good!
     
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