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Military Orders. A word of hope.

Discussion in 'PanOceania' started by Daireann, Sep 6, 2020.

  1. Sangarn

    Sangarn TRIUMcorp CEO
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    omg I missed the -1 WIP on the sepulchre so they give BS14 to haqq and remove one of our few (only ?) WIP 14 x)
    what other sectorial got TWO units with chop off WIP/BS ? I'm not even sure the -1 WIP as been taken into account for the cost, the reduction might just be the global scale down of HI


    my take on the Sepulchre:

    he's supposed to be a guardian/body guard
    rank him down to holomask, give him anti CC gear like the new -6 CC weapon
    one or two of those: sensor/biometric visor/msv1
    some nanopulser +1B
    give him back WIP 14 ........
    CC 22+ MA2 or NBW but it doesn't sound PanOy
    dodge +3
    Wildcard except crusader FT

    no spitfire loadout
    breaker combi/MMMR CoC
    breaker combi/MMMR Killer Hacker + Zero pain
    or why something fun and new ? a heavy shotgun breaker ! :p

    great now we have a bodyguard for our crappy lt choice \o/
    :sigh:
     
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  2. Skoll

    Skoll Well-Known Member
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    The problem with this is again investing more than the cost of the Lt. In protecting said lt. I think the sepulcher would be preferable as a high cost solo piece a la mowang.

    But if we want to keep it completely distinct and not just make it hur durr mimetism +spitfire piece. We have a good chance on giving it smg +1burst , keep forward deployment and give it mimetism. Have it function as a solo forward operating piece, maybe give it a mobility skill?

    An absolute doorbuster with mimetism 6 and heavy shotgun +1burst would be hilarious, but unlikely.

    Justifying fluff to gameplay almost never works, but these are the guys that supposedly came in held the entire line for the pano retreat and then marched spotless back into their drop ships, and only when the dropships left did yu jing collectively unclench.

    Ive never in my life seen someone be like "OH NO A SEPULCHER" hell the one time i disguised mine as 3 OS hrl guarding a flank , my opponent was actually relieved that it was only a sepulcher
     
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  3. Judge Dredd

    Judge Dredd Well-Known Member
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    You could have saved like 10 points with the real thing...
     
  4. Sangarn

    Sangarn TRIUMcorp CEO
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    that's just sad but true ...
    that's why my idea of holomask KHD + zero pain can bring fear and despair to the pagans ( or a big laugh because our tin bot suxx, like how in hell Panoceania only have -3 tinbot ..)
     
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  5. andre61

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    You, might be right, but figure give it shot.
     
  6. andre61

    andre61 Well-Known Member

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    He is only arm 3? Wow! he is a lot of points for an arm 3 HI, I'm sorry, I know there are post on this. So! what do any body thinks about De Fersen?
     
  7. fari

    fari CRISTASOL, EL LIQUIDO DE LOS DIOSES

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    Now i can see the list...

    I highly doubt that the Santiago Lt remains 0 CAP for long time...
     
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  8. Judge Dredd

    Judge Dredd Well-Known Member
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    DeFerson is actually looking really good now. Tinbot Santiago in a hospitalier link with him front manning it is actually looking very nasty. He's possibly benefited the most from the changes to hacking, MA and HI in the new edition. Hes dropped a further 5 points as well. The worst part of him is his templar ccw.
     
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  9. MikeTheScrivener

    MikeTheScrivener O-12 Peace Kepper

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    DeFerson isnt bad. as usual though he has some really tough competition in that 50+ points bracket.
     
  10. Judge Dredd

    Judge Dredd Well-Known Member
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    I mean he's only 4 points more than a KoJ spitfire and with the big hit to KHDs, his big weakness, has been toned down a lot and he can throw back just as good as he gets now that trinity is the standard. He's quite the 51 point package. He's 12% cheaper than he's ever been too.
     
  11. MikeTheScrivener

    MikeTheScrivener O-12 Peace Kepper

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    yeah, this is all very true.
    but for a little cheaper you get Joan, and for a little more you get a Tikibalang.
     
  12. Judge Dredd

    Judge Dredd Well-Known Member
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    Neither of which hack and one is a bad specialist. I'm not saying he's the only choice, but he's making a better argument to be taken than he has in years.
     
  13. Cdp1492

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    De Fersen is awesome in n4. Without maestro and other punishing killer hacker programs he feels more survivable and brings a spitfire to the core. On top of that he brings all the programs of a hacking device and trinity making him flexable in what he can do.
     
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  14. Stampysaur

    Stampysaur Wallace is my LT

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    I played a fairly functional 10 order list with all three of those on supplies. Tikbalang is amazing currently
     
  15. eciu

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    Sooo DART ?
    Well KotHS also lost DA for AP....

    (for younger readers I want to point out that KotHS used to have EXP CCW)
     
  16. Judge Dredd

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    I wish CB would re-release old editions as pdfs. 2nd ed had some whacky stuff that would have been a lot of fun. N4 feels like a smaller universe.
     
  17. Arkaon1125

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    Re Reading all the options i have a doubt now. Hospitalier still have the option to Create a CORE Fireteam ( a simple COre, without the Crusader option. Or they can only form CORE FT in the form of Crusader ones?)
     
  18. fari

    fari CRISTASOL, EL LIQUIDO DE LOS DIOSES

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    You can make a normal core fireteam or the Special Core, the Crusade one (by including Joan)
     
    #418 fari, Oct 9, 2020
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  19. Arkaon1125

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  20. fari

    fari CRISTASOL, EL LIQUIDO DE LOS DIOSES

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    Share links are broken T_T
     
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