Actually Carlos and Killian gave a fairly good impression for me. They themselves never talked about Morats being good shooters. It's the other guy who brought this up and for me it seems they just didn't want to get into a discussion. Just look at their expressions after The OTT Guy brought it up. When they talked about the Dartok they talked about it's survivability und aggression through hacking.
Lol, no. That's not what they said. Glasses: "This is a Morat hacker so it's tough, survivable, deadly, and it can also ruin your day with hacking attacks." McBeardy: "It's when hacking becomes a secondary" Glasses: "Exactly" McBeardy: "and there's not many, there's not many um, factions out there where the hackers can do so much damage in and of themselves without having to use backup." They're pretty clearly discussing the Dartok as a direct combat threat. "This is a Morat hacker so it's tough (ARM 1), survivable (1W, dogged, no immunity), deadly (BS11 with a Combi/SMG)." Last I checked a BS11 idiot with an SMG was not considered anywhere on the scale of "deadly" and it's literally a line infantry stats for firefights. Dogged is good, but it's mostly going to come up in hacking where it is guaranteed to not have to worry about shock. Don't get me wrong, this thing is a great hacking option but it's basically fucking useless in a firefight despite what these ding dongs are going on about. To follow on to Mr McBeardy's last comment: "and there's not many, there's not many um, factions out there where the hackers can do so much damage in and of themselves without having to use backup." Literally almost every faction has lots of hackers that double up and pull firefight duties if necessary, Pan-O just sports a casual BS15 Mimetic -6 hacker. Yu Jing the Hac Tao, Aleph Asura, CA just has goddamn E.I. Aspects nothing special. That's just the top end, units like the Ye Mao, Wildcats, and Shang Ji are other perfectly good examples of hackers that split their time between hacking and shooting. Given the amount of random soundbites and buzzwords McBeardy keeps throwing out like "stunning kit" I'm assuming he actually doesn't play the game at all unlike Glasses who probably plays it casually. His takeaway on the Kaitok is "Regardless of what people plan, uh, they can't really plan for that coming at them. Especially not at that cost." It's a Hackable unit with a low end BTS stat and no firewall. Literally any player with a defensive hacking network will plan to stop them. It's BS12 with a B2 long range gun. What the fuck do you think an opponent does when they put a linked ARO sniper down on the table? Maybe... hurrr.... they were... hurrrrr... PLANNING.... HURRRRRRRRRRR.... to have it stall the advance of some such units that like to run at their DZ? There was only one thing @Bostria said that annoyed the crap out of me, odd but maybe I'm just getting used to him overhyping the crap out of stuff and that was a fundamental misunderstanding over the Zerat. It's a BS11 idiot, people didn't like paying for a BS11 idiot and wasting a huge chunk of SWC on an BS11 idiot. It's got nothing to do with rangebands and infiltration, those work fine together you still gain the option of setting up lateral AROs. It's the same reason the Kunai is pretty shit. It's a BS11 Sharpshooter that can't hit anything. Who wants to pay for that, let alone waste 1.5SWC on it? That Zerat with the souped up Combi Rifle though, that's pretty attractive. More so than the one that pays 1SWC for the marksman rifle.
Can count the numbers I've played by one hand even if If cut half my fingers of, so I won't commend on the state of meta in Infinity. This is still a book with seven seals to me. But going by the reactions mostly provoked by talking about rules and feasibility of advertised modesl every time they show something for Infinity, I get the feeling this may become a problem with new players at some points. Advertising the new models of your faction as some kind of superhuman soldiers by default only to have them getting shredded to pieces by the nearest ARO rifle may give you the impression the game is not for you. Than still, full blown meta analysis of new rules are way to heavy for interessted players to watch a advertising video about. There must be somewhere in the middle.
@Triumph I think you are both overthinking it and you need to calm down a bit. For a line infantry hacker he is quite "survivable and deadly" compared to his class, and his points, sure you can get more from profiles that cost 3 (or more) times his cost, or get a better dedicated hacker who will not be risked in combat.
When playing Infinity the mindset shoud be "anything will die very fast". The base Morat stats are superior to those of humans, so technically they can be considered some kind of supersoldiers, but they'll die as fast as the rest.
Yeah, "just calm down and don't overthink it". "Pay for the new models and stop thinking about whether the purchase makes sense". This is, after all, a dumb pew pew game and "overthinking it" is not advised!
I’d also add that “everything will die really fast” but otherwise the above statement is very true, lol.
It's a hype video for new people not veterans. What would your idea of marketing be? "Now this unit here is quite dog shit at what it's supposed to do."
Here's an idea - how about they shouldn't release dog shit units? Basic units, decent enough at their tasks, sure. But a "never take" unit should not be a thing in a well designed game - whether through its stats, internal or external balance. Especially not when it's getting a new model, taking up SKUs and goading customers into a worthless purchase.
Ok, here's my idea. If CB plans to expand Corregidor from a sectorial into a full-blown faction they should just do it. Because this was funny only up to a point.
