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May there be a new teaser please?

Discussion in 'News' started by colbrook, Mar 16, 2022.

  1. Triumph

    Triumph Well-Known Member

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    I played Skorne for three editions. This thing is a piece of cake in comparison.
     
  2. Dragonstriker

    Dragonstriker That wizard came from the moon.

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    @Koni will the special Shikami have the alternative unhatted head?
     
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  3. Gwynbleidd

    Gwynbleidd Non asto coram malo

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    This. Answers please! I don’t mind keeping the hat but a second head for option would be nice.
     
  4. toadchild

    toadchild Premeasure

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    I think the Shikami center of gravity should be pretty ok - that looks way more balanced than the Samaritan, for example.
     
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  5. colbrook

    colbrook Grenade Delivery Specialist

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    The big chunk of roof probably helps balance her.
     
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  6. Koni

    Koni BanHammer
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    Nope sorry, no alternative head.
     
  7. Gwynbleidd

    Gwynbleidd Non asto coram malo

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    Yeah, you’re most likely right. It’ll only be a concern if I remove her from that roof abs I don’t see a need to as it matches the scenery I’m using for my jsa anyway.

    Aww. Oh well. Still buying her, too damn pretty not to.
     
  8. Nuada Airgetlam

    Nuada Airgetlam Nazis sod off ///

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    That's a bold statement :D

    Straight from the Polish National War Museum in Warsaw. Please show me those overtly sexualized characteristics.

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    The fact that SOME armour is more parade than function and baroque armour is a class of its own, doesn't mean that such incredible generalizations are warranted.

    Neither does the fact that male "boob armour" existed at one point (Kastenbrust), driving hits towards the gut seam in an obvious fashion. Replica example below

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  9. Gwynbleidd

    Gwynbleidd Non asto coram malo

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    On some armours there are… exaggerated parts shall we say. If you look at the armour of king Henry VIII, the codpiece is rather large… it’s certainly done for effect but is not at the expense of survivability. The soft squishy parts are far away from that armoured piece.

    Those examples are stunning! Damn it. I thought the Leeds armoury had everything. I’ll have to visit Poland at some point then. Would love to see those up close. Warsaw you say? Will look into going there after Oktoberfest next year. I had also forgotten the Kastenbrust style which I’ve only ever seen one of. I beg indulgence, I haven’t discussed armour styles in some time.

    Edit: apologies for derailing the thread but I had to comment on those armours. They’re so damn pretty.
     
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  10. Wizzy

    Wizzy Well-Known Member

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    For the Shikami's head, I'll go for a little guillotining of the families and a little switching, the naked head of Shinobu Ketsune (who will have 2 heads) look well, the conversion would be easy.
     
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  11. Triumph

    Triumph Well-Known Member

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    Is the Shikami going to be available through regular distribution for Black Friday or is it going to be direct order from CB only?
     
  12. Fed4ykin

    Fed4ykin Well-Known Member

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    If i remember correctly bostria said it will be available over the official corvus belli shop on black Friday.
    So it might depend on local shops buying the shikami for retail purposes or being allowed to do so. Don't know how this works never worked in retail.
     
  13. archon

    archon Well-Known Member

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    My 2 ct on the new minis:


    Hawkings looks okay, I am not a big fan but I can understand that CB makes a mini for the charakter in the book (I think I´ll give it read). The multi pistol looks nice (first time we see this weapon apart form Wild Bills colts).
    Gran Maesters glas holding pose is not what I hoped for, but okay. Curator is cute and here is the problem, I would be her in a single blister, but now I am "forced" to buy the other two too. Not a nice move for an engineer model.

    Shinobu is a very good new sculpt. Better then the Defiance version in my opinion. I like the hat version.

    Marut looks very good, sleek and elegant, a little bit Eldar-Phantom-Lord like. I like - and I hope the quality will be good.

    Shikami lim ed looks impressive but is not made for gaming - it WILL fall over. I think the is best stored in a cabinet only.

    Uh and Bulkwark, whatever new Morat TAG is - I am not even dare to write it down, but yes, it looks ugly, all because of this thingy between its legs. Please make a last minute change and make a quick redesign. I sold my Morats and I like most of the resdesign, but this dingdong thing would make me skip this TAG if I would play them regulary.
     
  14. Nuada Airgetlam

    Nuada Airgetlam Nazis sod off ///

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    Muzeum Wojska Polskiego, Warsaw, yep. Here's their FP [ https://www.facebook.com/MuzeumWP/ ].

    Just google images "zbroja płytowa Muzeum Wojska Polskiego" [ https://www.google.com/search?q=zbr...hBFcQ_AUoAXoECAEQAw&biw=2048&bih=759&dpr=1.25 ] and check out the incredible stuff they have. And there's a lot of modern military collections as well!

    They even have this - a 16th century (ca. 1525) Mediolan parade armour piece, completely engraved in scenes of Roman vs Hannibal's Carthaginian combat, all of the engravings gilded. Just back from restoration on this 2020 pic. Insane piece.

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  15. Gwynbleidd

    Gwynbleidd Non asto coram malo

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    Holy shit that’s beautiful. I thought seeing a coat of mail that had holy passages imprinted on each ring and link was something. That however is someone with all the money, just all of it. Even for ceremonial purposes the work involved and the price would have been insane. Love it. Have to see that up close. Definitely looking into visiting.
     
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  16. Red Harvest

    Red Harvest Day in, Day out. Day in, Day out. Day in, DAY OUT

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    The wasp waist was not a product of some metal clad Beau Brummel wannabes. It was a result of the changes to breastplates to deal with piercing weapons, including bullets. That piece you see on higher end armor ( not the Almain rivet worn by commom types)) the piece with the prominent keel and peascod belly [seen in the first photo in Nuada's post above], is a secondary breastplate called a placard and it meant to be bulletproof. (Interesting tv show here https://www.pbs.org/wgbh/nova/video/secrets-of-the-shining-knight/ the video is not available, but scroll down and read the transcript. Neat stuff) The narrow waist also let the hips take some of the weight of the breastplate so it did not hang entirely from the shoulders. Amusing side note, the armor and the saddle used by such armored individuals functioned as a nice back brace. The English King Richard III had scoliosis and at least one historical recreation shows that the armor helped his back. (https://www.imdb.com/title/tt4033006/ for the video info)

    For Fashion, and overtly sexual characteristics, you will need to look a bit lower, at the codpiece. An image search of the term 'armored codpiece' will be an eye opener. You will see that some were definitely form over function. Looking even lower would be the long pointy sabatons meant to mimick popular footwear that has long pointy toe, called Cracows, or Poulains ( Hey, a reference to Poland.) I think they were removable because they would be silly in combat.
     
  17. Gwynbleidd

    Gwynbleidd Non asto coram malo

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    Indeed. You can see the “wasp waist” on some gothic plate designs but it most certainly was not, as you said, due to metal clad beau brummel wannabes. (This made me laugh quite hard, well done). Thanks for those links! Some interesting info there.

    The sabatons were definitely a fashion choice in terms of some of their designs but were generally used by knights on horseback where their feet and shins could be attacked by those on foot. As armour improved they were moved away from due to the difficulty they could cause when worn by a knight on foot, especially on softer ground. In time the horse armour itself provided the protection a knight needed for his legs and feet and so knights eventually eschewed the need for them (I think by the late 1500’s) You can see an excellent example of Crakow Sabatons on the funerary effigy of the Earl of Warwick c. 1430.

    The codpiece, as you mentioned certainly had form over function especially as the soft bits were largely nowhere near the armour piece in question. I’ll again mention Henry VIIIths armour here. Though I have to say I think it’s the most well armoured piece on his entire suit… I also am convinced it was his way of saying “I'm the King”. A Google search for these parts of armour is indeed an eye opener. Also, I need to visit Madrid as well. Damn pretty stuff in their museum too.
     
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  18. Mob of Blondes

    Mob of Blondes Well-Known Member

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    Sometimes CB releases miniatures with non absurdly big details (just a bit exagerated, last Wallace has a really thin sword, real scale would be paper thin... OTOH, literally, the fingers are tiny and damage prone, but that did not stop CB making something that approaches real scale), and where male / female still can be distinguished.

    Not always. Sadly such complains (maybe) only managed to get a beer belly joke character in a handful poses (or maybe there was a different cause for those releases), instead of more varied mix by now.

    We can hope some day all the noise will mean a not-only-extremes body range for the releases to be the norm. Weapon size and shape is already a good compromise in some cases. Well, Pano magazine will probably always be beyond help, and new remotes have silly "just glued here in the 3D modeller, using a cube" weapons. But again, some cases say CB can do things plausibly sized and shaped.

    What museum are you talking about?
    On codpieces, read somewhere that syphilis could also be a reason, mega-banana style was not just for armour, also clothes.
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    About extra detailed and exagerated armour, muscle curiass is even older than Middle Ages plate, and done by different cultures. Some included waist "trap" too, not just sternum one.

    You want to talk about modern protection, females look "ugh, I sure will get a rash" when using male type, and "ugh, maybe no rash this time, maybe" when using the uniforms distributed in last decade or so. With explosive-handling suit they are hard/impossible to recognize, but the lighter the protection, the easier it is to see who is male or female, even more so when moving. Sculptor task is to put such hints into the static model.
     
  19. Gwynbleidd

    Gwynbleidd Non asto coram malo

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    It’s in the Leeds Armoury. It’s a rather extreme example of a cod piece but it’s not the only one that’s rather exaggerated, just that it’s one of the most… memorable. Believe that it’s the dress one I saw which I think is now in the Tower in London.
     
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  20. Nuada Airgetlam

    Nuada Airgetlam Nazis sod off ///

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    Eh, if it's not a "sexy girls in too tight uniforms" pinup photo and they have a full combat load (comfortable uniform, vest with plates, pouches full of magazines, backpack, boots, etc) you are not telling them from their male counterparts at a distance, except possibly for face details and/or hair length if regulations permit.

    First Israeli soldier here is female. 2nd? 50/50, leaning to female myself. Third? Hell if I know.
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    Israeli army again, that guy in the middle of left side column and his buddy? If they weren't cut short I'd miss them.
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    This Polish female soldier? Couldn't tell if I didn't know already and didn't see face so clearly. Can you tell that the silhouette in the rear is female, not male? She is, but there's no way to tell.
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    Her female unit buddies? Smaller frames are the only indicator, could just as well be a more lithe guy and a shorter one behind him.
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