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Manned TAG pilots and ARO

Discussion in '[Archived]: N3 Rules' started by Trilker, Oct 11, 2019.

  1. Trilker

    Trilker New Member

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    Question from a game this week.

    A TAG was taken down, but not destroyed. Enemy Unit A can see the front half of the TAG.

    The pilot then tries to leave the TAG when it's owner uses their next order on the pilot. The rules state clearly that you use the pilot profile, and, as we read it, the TAG is not the activating unit, the pilot is.

    So if the player can place the pilot in base with the TAG, but not in LOF of Unit A (or any other emeny unit), does Unit get to ARO against the pilot because they can draw LOF to the front of the TAG? (i.e. does the pilot have to clamber out of the TAG, or do they just 'appear' wherever the controlling player wants to place them?)
     
  2. Sabin76

    Sabin76 Well-Known Member

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    No. The pilot can dismount in the back and be completely blocked by the TAG itself (which never activates). Therefore the other player can't ARO against it.
     
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  3. daboarder

    daboarder Force One Commander
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    the TAG is never considered activated so does not generate an aro
     
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    xagroth Mournful Echo

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    I think that if the TAG is Unconscious, you can't then order the pilot out, however :S
     
  5. Armihaul

    Armihaul Well-Known Member

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    when inconscious, you can spend orders to dismount the pilot, is in the tripulated rule
     
  6. ijw

    ijw Ian Wood aka the Wargaming Trader. Rules & Wiki
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    • This Special Skill allows the user to receive Orders from its Order Pool despite being Unconscious. These Orders can only be used to Dismount the Pilot (see General Movement rules, Move), and use the Pilot's Troop Profile.
     
  7. Ashtroboy

    Ashtroboy Well-Known Member

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    so does this mean that if the manned tag takes enough damage in a single order to go from healthy to a dead state, then the pilot can’t leave the tag and is dead?
     
  8. Mahtamori

    Mahtamori Well-Known Member

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    1. You won't have any unconscious TAG to spend an order on to dismount the Pilot because the TAG is removed from the table when Dead.
    2. The Pilot doesn't qualify for the Dead state, so it is not Dead if the TAG is removed from the table when the Pilot is mounted.
     
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    Ashtroboy Well-Known Member

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    Cheers that's what I thought about 1, curious as to what the implications of 2 are though
     
  10. Mahtamori

    Mahtamori Well-Known Member

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    There are none ;)

    Because if the pilot is inside, the pilot is just removed from the table and since the pilot doesn't count for any extra points it has no run-on effects when it comes to Victory Points. All that's left to consider is "kill specialist" missions, and that is to say the pilot never enters a state where it counts as killed (and it can never not be deployed, because that's the natural state for it if the TAG survives).
    That is to say, you simply don't count it and fully ignore the pilot.
     
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