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Discussion in 'Yu Jing' started by Jonno, Nov 29, 2018.

  1. Jonno

    Jonno Well-Known Member

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    I am having so much fun building lists for IA. There are so many options! At the moment I'm just looking at getting as many linked HI on the table, and the results are great. For example:

    Inflammable Army
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    MÓWÁNG (Lieutenant) Spitfire, Flammenspeer / Heavy Pistol, Knife. (1 | 52)
    HǍIDÀO Hacker (Killer Hacking Device) Boarding Shotgun / Breaker Pistol, Knife. (0 | 26)
    ZÚYŎNG (Fireteam: Duo, Tactical Awareness) HMG / 2 Breaker Pistols, Knife. (1.5 | 38)
    ZÚYŎNG (Fireteam: Haris, Tactical Awareness) Combi Rifle + 1 TinBot B (Deflector L2) / 2 Breaker Pistols, Knife. (0.5 | 34)
    HǍIDÀO Engineer Combi Rifle, D-Charges / Breaker Pistol, Knife. (0 | 28)
    ZÚYŎNG (Fireteam: Duo, Tactical Awareness) HMG / 2 Breaker Pistols, Knife. (1.5 | 38)
    HǍIDÀO (Chain of Command) Combi Rifle, D-Charges / Breaker Pistol, Knife. (0 | 29)
    ZÚYǑNG Paramedic (MediKit) Combi Rifle / 2 Breaker Pistols, Knife. (0 | 29)
    CHAĪYÌ Yaókòng Flash Pulse, Sniffer / Electric Pulse. (0 | 8)
    ZHANSHI Missile Launcher / Pistol, Knife. (1.5 | 16)

    6 SWC | 298 Points

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    I can have either:
    Mowang Spitfire + Haido KHD/Eng
    Zuyong HMG + Zuyong Haris(Tinbot L2) + Haido KHD/Eng
    Zugong HMG + Haido CoC
    Lone Zuyong paradmedic

    or
    Mowang Spitfire + Haido KHD/Eng
    Zuyong HMG + Haido KHD/Eng
    Zugong HMG + Haido CoC
    Zuyong Haris(Tinbot L2) + Zuyong Paramedic

    or
    5 man Zuyong link (including a Haido Eng/KHD and Tinbot L2)
    Mowang Spitfire + Haido KHD/Eng
    Lone Haido CoC

    All the Haidos could be changed to KHDs, or swap one for MSV2 MSR (and put him in the 5 man link).

    So you can push 3 separate good quality HI attack pieces which trail durable specialists with them, and are generally not vulnerable to hacking due to having KHDs or Tinbots, so hopefully the lack of Stealth isn't too big a deal.

    I love flexible, tactical, aggressive armies like this. The Mowang Lt with a good CoC option is awesome and is going to wreck so many people's day - 2W+NWI mimetism on ARM 5 with BS13 and his own KHD or Engineer.

    It's probably sensible they limited Haidos to AVA 3, otherwise I might run 5 and just have 5 duo links :)

    I can't wait to play IA :D
     
  2. Mahtamori

    Mahtamori Well-Known Member

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    I think a Panggodoggo for the Mowang is a very good investment. Means the Mowang going deep will project repeater coverage for your Tinbotted Haidao KHD. Also can reload that Kanone/Speer.
     
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  3. gorin

    gorin Well-Known Member

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    i think all list without daoing l2 is invalid

    mowang and HI link nko's, ta, jiz
     
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  4. ObviousGray

    ObviousGray Frenzied Mushroom
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    How 'bout this? Zhanshi support + Tai Haris.
     
  5. Drezden

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    i cant understand fireteams
     
  6. Jonno

    Jonno Well-Known Member

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    Nice nice! I didn't know the rules for Lt2 and NCO, and was having a hard time understanding why anyone would take the Daoying. If the rumours are to be believed, it's basically that Lt2 grants two Lt orders, and NCO units can spend Lt orders as regular orders (and thereby not break fireteams). Meaning your Ti Haris there has actually 9 orders available, that is fantastic.
     
  7. Jonno

    Jonno Well-Known Member

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    The Mowang and Zuyong HMGs have Fireteam Duo. Zuyong's can form Fireteam Core, and the Zuyong Haris provides Haris. Up to one Haido can join any fireteam. So all 8 HI there are linkable in the different ways I put in my first post.
     
  8. Mahtamori

    Mahtamori Well-Known Member

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    10, plus an option for converting Irregular to an 11th
    7 base, +1 Tactical Awareness, +2 NCOLT2 conversion.
     
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  9. Maksimas

    Maksimas Maxi

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    The title more or less sums up what I wanted to do with this list.


    The new sectorial is fina and all, but what about Vanilla?
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    DĀOYĪNG Lieutenant L2 Boarding Shotgun / Breaker Pistol, Knife. (0 | 21)
    MÓWÁNG (NCO) Red Fury, Akrylat-Kanone / Heavy Pistol, Knife. (1 | 52)
    LIÚ XĪNG Spitfire / Pistol, CC Weapon. (2 | 39)
    HǍIDÀO (Multispectral Visor L2) MULTI Sniper / Breaker Pistol, Knife. (1.5 | 37)
    ZÚYŎNG (Fireteam: Duo, Tactical Awareness) HMG / 2 Breaker Pistols, Knife. (1.5 | 38)
    NINJA Hacker (Killer Hacking Device) Tactical Bow / Pistol, DA CCW, Knife. (0 | 29)
    CELESTIAL GUARD (Forward Observer) Boarding Shotgun / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 13)
    CELESTIAL GUARD (Forward Observer) Boarding Shotgun / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 13)
    ZHĒNCHÁ (Forward Observer) Boarding Shotgun, D-Charges / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 37)
    XI ZHUANG Combi Rifle + Light Flamethrower, MadTraps / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 20)

    6 SWC | 299 Points

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  10. zapp

    zapp Well-Known Member

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    I played Vanilla for two years now, so I have fun with the sectorial for now. Go for 2nd turn, buff all remotes with repeaters to burst 2 and grab some popcorn.
    This is not serious though. You might have problems with the space in your deployment zone, especially when you go for full Holoecho2 madness. :joy:

    Too many remotes
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    GROUP 1[​IMG] [​IMG] [​IMG]10
    RUI SHI Spitfire / Electric Pulse. (1 | 20)
    RUI SHI Spitfire / Electric Pulse. (1 | 20)
    LÙ DUĀN Mk12, Heavy Flamethrower / Electric Pulse. (0 | 21)
    LÙ DUĀN Mk12, Heavy Flamethrower / Electric Pulse. (0 | 21)
    PANGGULING Hacker (EVO Hacking Device) Electric Pulse. (0.5 | 25)
    CHAĪYÌ Yaókòng Flash Pulse, Sniffer / Electric Pulse. (0 | 8)
    CHAĪYÌ Yaókòng Flash Pulse, Sniffer / Electric Pulse. (0 | 8)
    WÈIBĪNG Yaókòng Combi Rifle, Sniffer / Electric Pulse. (0 | 16)
    WÈIBĪNG Yaókòng Combi Rifle, Sniffer / Electric Pulse. (0 | 16)
    PANGGULING FTO (Repeater) Light Shotgun / Electric Pulse. (0 | 13)

    GROUP 2[​IMG] [​IMG] [​IMG]7
    ZHANSHI Combi Rifle / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 11)
    ZHANSHI Combi Rifle / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 11)
    ZHANSHI Lieutenant Combi Rifle / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 11)
    HÙSÒNG Yaókòng HMG / Electric Pulse. (1 | 25)
    HÙSÒNG Yaókòng HMG / Electric Pulse. (1 | 25)
    HÙSÒNG Yaókòng HMG / Electric Pulse. (1 | 25)
    MECH-ENGINEER Combi Rifle, D-Charges / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 15)
    YÁOZĂO Electric Pulse. (0 | 3)
    YÁOZĂO Electric Pulse. (0 | 3)
    YÁOZĂO Electric Pulse. (0 | 3)

    5.5 SWC | 300 Points

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  11. Jonno

    Jonno Well-Known Member

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    Tacticool
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    MÓWÁNG (NCO) Spitfire, Flammenspeer / Heavy Pistol, Knife. (2 | 54)
    PANGGULING FTO (Repeater) Light Shotgun / Electric Pulse. (0 | 13)
    ZÚYŎNG (Fireteam: Duo, Tactical Awareness) HMG / 2 Breaker Pistols, Knife. (1.5 | 38)
    ZÚYŎNG (Fireteam: Duo, Tactical Awareness) HMG / 2 Breaker Pistols, Knife. (1.5 | 38)
    TAI SHENG Mk12, Chain-colt, Stun Grenade / Heavy Pistol, Knife. (0 | 45)
    ZÚYŎNG (Fireteam: Haris, Tactical Awareness) Combi Rifle + 1 TinBot B (Deflector L2) / 2 Breaker Pistols, Knife. (0.5 | 34)
    HǍIDÀO Hacker (Killer Hacking Device) Boarding Shotgun / Breaker Pistol, Knife. (0 | 26)
    DĀOYĪNG Lieutenant L2 Boarding Shotgun / Breaker Pistol, Knife. (0 | 21)
    PANGGULING FTO (Repeater) Light Shotgun / Electric Pulse. (0 | 13)
    WÈIBĪNG Yaókòng Combi Rifle, Sniffer / Electric Pulse. (0 | 16)

    5.5 SWC | 298 Points

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    Am I correct in thinking this list has:
    10 Regular Orders
    2 Lt Orders can be spent on Mowang, Tai Sheng or Daoying
    3 Tactical Awareness Orders, which can be spent only themselves

    So the 5 man Zuyong link has 15 Orders available (3 of which are stuck to individual troopers, two of which have HMGs). These orders can be used to just Move-Move when required. And it carries a KHD and a Tinbot. And 2 HMGs, a MK12, a shotgun, a (stun) grenade, and a template weapon (chain-colt). And two specialists. And can split to form 3 separate duo fireteams, or one Haris and one Core of 3-3 or 4-2. That is amazing :D I think I'm in love.

    Limited Insertion is going to be pretty rad.
     
  12. Zewrath

    Zewrath Nordic Master

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    Something like this, I guess?

    I Guess this...
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    GROUP 1[​IMG] [​IMG] [​IMG]10
    SHÀNG JÍ (Tactical Awareness) Spitfire / Pistol, Shock CCW. (2 | 45)
    HǍIDÀO Engineer Combi Rifle, D-Charges / Breaker Pistol, Knife. (0 | 28)
    ZHANSHI Combi Rifle / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 11)
    ZHANSHI Combi Rifle / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 11)
    ZHANSHI Combi Rifle / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 11)
    CHAĪYÌ Yaókòng Flash Pulse, Sniffer / Electric Pulse. (0 | 8)
    CHAĪYÌ Yaókòng Flash Pulse, Sniffer / Electric Pulse. (0 | 8)
    PANGGULING (Minesweeper, Repeater) Electric Pulse. (0 | 8)
    PANGGULING (Minesweeper, Repeater) Electric Pulse. (0 | 8)
    Zhanshi YĪSHĒNG Combi Rifle / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 15)
    YÁOZĂO Electric Pulse. (0 | 3)
    GROUP 2[​IMG] [​IMG] [​IMG]5 [​IMG]1
    ZÚYŎNG (Fireteam: Haris, Tactical Awareness) Combi Rifle + 1 TinBot B (Deflector L2) / 2 Breaker Pistols, Knife. (0.5 | 34)
    SON-BAE Yaókòng Missile Launcher / Electric Pulse. (1.5 | 17)
    TAI SHENG Mk12, Chain-colt, Stun Grenade / Heavy Pistol, Knife. (0 | 45)
    WARCOR (Sixth Sense L1) Flash Pulse / Stun Pistol, Knife. (0 | 3)
    DĀOYĪNG Lieutenant L2 Hacker (Hacking Device) Boarding Shotgun / Breaker Pistol, Knife. (0.5 | 29)
    WÈIBĪNG Yaókòng Combi Rifle, Sniffer / Electric Pulse. (0 | 16)
    4.5 SWC | 300 Points
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    10 orders for the Shang JI to attempt doing something constructive with his goons and the extra order.
    5 orders in the second group, which can be activated with 2 extra orders due to NCO and Lt. 2, which makes it a pseudo 18 order list.
     
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  13. Jonno

    Jonno Well-Known Member

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    Pretty nice!
    A Shanji leader of a 5 man team with 10 + 1 orders, and a Zuyong Haris with 5 regular + 1 Tactical + 2 Lt orders, making it a 11 and 8+1 irregular order list. It might be a bit fragile going second, but then again it can lose many of the cheap orders in ARO and still go strong. I would probably trade the Doctor for an Engineer, if only to force my opponent to shoot those 4 ARO REMs multiple times.
     
  14. fatherboxx

    fatherboxx Well-Known Member

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    How do you like them apples? :D

    U CANT SEE ME
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    LIBERTO (Minelayer) Light Shotgun, Chain-colt, Antipersonnel Mines / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 10)
    DÀOFĚI Spitfire / Pistol, Shock CCW. (2 | 55)
    HAC TAO (Executive Order) HMG, Nanopulser / Pistol, DA CCW. (2 | 69)
    GŬILÁNG (Minelayer) Combi Rifle, Antipersonnel Mines / Pistol, Knife. (0.5 | 26)
    GŬILÁNG (Forward Observer, Deployable Repeater) Combi Rifle, Antipersonnel Mines / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 27)
    NINJA Hacker (Killer Hacking Device) Tactical Bow / Pistol, DA CCW, Knife. (0 | 29)
    DĀOYĪNG Lieutenant L2 (Minelayer) MULTI Sniper, Antipersonnel Mines / Breaker Pistol, Knife. (1.5 | 32)
    KǍNRÈN Forward Observer Boarding Shotgun, Chain-colt / Pistol, Monofilament CC Weapon, Knife. (0 | 26)
    CHAĪYÌ Yaókòng Flash Pulse, Sniffer / Electric Pulse. (0 | 8)
    Zhanshi YĪSHĒNG Combi Rifle / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 15)
    YÁOZĂO Electric Pulse. (0 | 3)

    6 SWC | 300 Points

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  15. Triumph

    Triumph Well-Known Member

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    Well, if you go back to Vanilla you can get a really scary stupid amount of orders on the table


    Yu Jing
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    GROUP 1[​IMG] [​IMG] [​IMG]10
    DĀOYĪNG Lieutenant L2 Boarding Shotgun / Breaker Pistol, Knife. (0 | 21)
    TAI SHENG Mk12, Chain-colt, Stun Grenade / Heavy Pistol, Knife. (0 | 45)
    ZÚYŎNG (Fireteam: Duo, Tactical Awareness) HMG / 2 Breaker Pistols, Knife. (1.5 | 38)
    ZÚYŎNG (Fireteam: Duo, Tactical Awareness) HMG / 2 Breaker Pistols, Knife. (1.5 | 38)
    ZHANSHI Hacker (Hacking Device) Combi Rifle / Pistol, Knife. (0.5 | 19)
    PANGGULING (Minesweeper, Repeater) Electric Pulse. (0 | 8)
    PANGGULING (Minesweeper, Repeater) Electric Pulse. (0 | 8)
    CHAĪYÌ Yaókòng Flash Pulse, Sniffer / Electric Pulse. (0 | 8)
    Zhanshi YĪSHĒNG Combi Rifle / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 15)
    MECH-ENGINEER Combi Rifle, D-Charges / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 15)
    YÁOZĂO Electric Pulse. (0 | 3)

    GROUP 2[​IMG] [​IMG] [​IMG]6 [​IMG]4 [​IMG]8
    SHAOLIN Chain Rifle, Smoke Grenades / Pistol, Shock CCW. (0 | 5)
    SHAOLIN Chain Rifle, Smoke Grenades / Pistol, Shock CCW. (0 | 5)
    SHAOLIN Chain Rifle, Smoke Grenades / Pistol, Shock CCW. (0 | 5)
    SHAOLIN Chain Rifle, Smoke Grenades / Pistol, Shock CCW. (0 | 5)
    KUANG SHI Chain Rifle / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 5)
    KUANG SHI Chain Rifle / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 5)
    KUANG SHI Chain Rifle / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 5)
    KUANG SHI Chain Rifle / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 5)
    NINJA Hacker (Killer Hacking Device) Tactical Bow / Pistol, DA CCW, Knife. (0 | 29)
    CELESTIAL GUARD (Kuang Shi Control Device) Combi Rifle + Light Smoke Grenade Launcher / Pistol, Knife. (0.5 | 13)

    4 SWC | 300 Points

    Group 1 has 14 orders to run through HMGs and Mk12s a turn, and group 2 can basically handle a fair portion of the button pushing and foul up the mid field with bodies.
     
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  16. Triumph

    Triumph Well-Known Member

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    Revealing your Hac Tao and losing an LT order because he told the Daoying to sit the fuck down doesn't seem great.
     
  17. McNamara

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    Yeah, finally we have proper netlisting in Infinity!
     
  18. Mahtamori

    Mahtamori Well-Known Member

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    Depends on when you reveal it. If in active turn, the Hac Tao can just burn those two orders since they have already been generated.
     
  19. Kallas

    Kallas Vincible

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    My first attempt:

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    DĀOYĪNG Lieutenant L2 Hacker (Hacking Device) Boarding Shotgun / Breaker Pistol, Knife. (0.5 | 29)
    ZHĒNCHÁ (Forward Observer) Submachine Gun, D.E.P., Antipersonnel Mines / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 34)
    TAI SHENG (Chain of Command) Mk12, Chain-colt, Stun Grenade / Heavy Pistol, Knife. (0 | 49)
    ZÚYŎNG (Fireteam: Duo, Tactical Awareness) HMG / 2 Breaker Pistols, Knife. (1.5 | 38)
    ZÚYŎNG (Fireteam: Haris, Tactical Awareness) Combi Rifle + 1 TinBot B (Deflector L2) / 2 Breaker Pistols, Knife. (0.5 | 34)
    HǍIDÀO Hacker (Killer Hacking Device) Boarding Shotgun / Breaker Pistol, Knife. (0 | 26)
    SON-BAE Yaókòng Missile Launcher / Electric Pulse. (1.5 | 17)
    MÓWÁNG (NCO) Red Fury, Akrylat-Kanone / Heavy Pistol, Knife. (1 | 52)
    PANGGULING FTO (Repeater) Light Shotgun / Electric Pulse. (0 | 13)
    CHAĪYÌ Yaókòng Flash Pulse, Sniffer / Electric Pulse. (0 | 8)
    5 SWC | 300 Points
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    Should have enough meat to carry itself, some good firepower and some link flexibility. Not sure about missions though. *shrug* Will need to try it out.
     
  20. Triumph

    Triumph Well-Known Member

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    Then you lose them for the subsequent turns still. Doesn't feel great.