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Krit “the Crit” Kokram

Discussion in 'Yu Jing' started by yoink101, Jun 11, 2019.

  1. yoink101

    yoink101 Well-Known Member

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    The big man is out and his profile is active. In an army full of expensive heavy hitters, he’s not inspiring. I could see the forward deployed guy be solid in a mission with an objective room. E/maulers alongside a direct template weapon and wip 14 means he could do some work clearing and holding. Beyond that, I don’t see myself taking him for much though.
     
  2. IAGO242

    IAGO242 Executive Officer

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    I'd run this maybe...
    Just because he's a cool model and IF he doesn't get EM'd it would be nice to have an engineer close. But I think it's very risky.

    Invincible Army
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    DĀOYĪNG Lieutenant L2 Boarding Shotgun / Breaker Pistol, Knife. (0 | 21)
    HǍIDÀO (Multispectral Visor L2) MULTI Sniper / Breaker Pistol, Knife. (1.5 | 37)
    HǍIDÀO Hacker (Killer Hacking Device) Boarding Shotgun / Breaker Pistol, Knife. (0 | 26)
    TAI SHENG Mk12, Chain-colt, Stun Grenades / Heavy Pistol, Knife. (0 | 45)
    ZÚYŎNG (Fireteam: Duo, Tactical Awareness) HMG / 2 Breaker Pistols, Knife. (1.5 | 38)
    ZÚYŎNG (Fireteam: Haris, Tactical Awareness) Combi Rifle + 1 TinBot B (Deflector L2) / 2 Breaker Pistols, Knife. (0.5 | 34)
    KOKRAM FTO (Fireteam: Duo) Combi Rifle + E/Mitter, Chain-colt, E/Mauler / 2 Heavy Pistols, Knife. (0 | 39)
    ZHĒNCHÁ (Forward Observer) Submachine Gun, D.E.P., Antipersonnel Mines / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 34)
    CHAĪYÌ Yaókòng Flash Pulse, Sniffer / Electric Pulse. (0 | 8)
    Zhanshi YĪSHĒNG Combi Rifle / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 15)
    YÁOZĂO Electric Pulse. (0 | 3)

    3.5 SWC | 300 Points

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  3. Section9

    Section9 Well-Known Member

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    It's an awesome model.

    The points cost is high, and honestly interfering with taking a heavy weapon (because all IA big guns are expensive).
     
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  4. IAGO242

    IAGO242 Executive Officer

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    This would be 'fun', especially if you get a sniper tower/apartment building and can stack models exactly on top of each other so you can't slice the pie one by one.
    The other units can push the buttons, and the Liu Xing can be the main attacker.
    probably gimmicky and awful to play, but I'd try it for the hell of it.

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    DĀOYĪNG Lieutenant L2 Hacker (Hacking Device) Boarding Shotgun / Breaker Pistol, Knife. (0.5 | 29)
    HǍIDÀO (Multispectral Visor L2) MULTI Sniper / Breaker Pistol, Knife. (1.5 | 37)
    ZÚYǑNG Missile Launcher, Light Shotgun / 2 Breaker Pistols, Knife. (2 | 36)
    ZÚYǑNG (Forward Observer) Combi Rifle / 2 Breaker Pistols, Knife. (0 | 28)
    PANGGULING FTO (Repeater) Light Shotgun / Electric Pulse. (0 | 13)
    KOKRAM FTO (Fireteam: Duo) Feuerbach, Chain-colt, D-Charges / 2 Heavy Pistols, Knife. (2 | 48)
    LIÚ XĪNG Boarding Shotgun / Pistol, CC Weapon. (0 | 32)
    Zhanshi YĪSHĒNG Combi Rifle / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 15)
    ZHĒNCHÁ (Forward Observer) Submachine Gun, D.E.P., Antipersonnel Mines / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 34)
    HǍIDÀO Hacker (Killer Hacking Device) Boarding Shotgun / Breaker Pistol, Knife. (0 | 26)

    6 SWC | 298 Points

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  5. csjarrat

    csjarrat Well-Known Member
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    Yeah it's quite an asking price in invincibles for that Feuerbach profile. Not terrible profile but he's gonna be very hard to squeeze into a list as they're already a tough build.
     
  6. ObviousGray

    ObviousGray Frenzied Mushroom
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    He does pose some underwhelming feeling. But well the card is in the deck; I might try him as a combat engineer.
     
  7. xagroth

    xagroth Mournful Echo

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    No mention to the Duo with the Guijia?

    Even more pricey than a certain Haris... xD
     
  8. Savnock

    Savnock Nerfherder

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    The big questions is: if you're taking a heavy weapon for ARO anyways, is the Feurbach profile's higher cost worth the benefits, vs. say a Zuyong ML... and what else does it edge out of your list.

    If you're facing StarCo, Druze, or Shas and the accompanying hail of E/M grenades or surprise butseks template weapons, I'd say it is, given that an Engineer would cost you more than that 12 points and be easy to splat with an LGL or backshot before they move on to the team. Engineer is just neglected in a lot of lists, I found while playing StarCo.

    As for the Guijia duo, seems like it would be more valuable in vanilla than IA.
     
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  9. Mahtamori

    Mahtamori Well-Known Member

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    Why bring Krit against StarCo/Druze/Shas to cure E/M when he's going to be the primary target of said E/M? A Zhanshi Gongcheng will get at least 1 order to actually try and remove the E/M state and for the price of 1 Krit you can get 2 Zhanshi Gongcheng/Yisheng and 4 Yaozao. Unless you overextend that would give you significantly higher fortitude and staying power than Krit simply by virtue of being where Krit wouldn't.
     
  10. Joametz

    Joametz Chinese Empire in Space enthusiast

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    I'd argue Krit is better as an ARO piece than the Zuyong ML thanks to V:Courage. That said, our main ARO piece in IA is still going to be the amazing Haidao MSV2, but will try him in a pain train list alongside Tai Sheng an all the beefy boys. I've done battle against several Varuna opponents fielding both the Orc Feuer and the Kamau MSR, maybe this can work kinda likt that (except you can't just have them defending because you spent a salaries worth of points in the link).

    Don't know if it's any good yet but it doesn't hurt to give it a go.
     
  11. fatherboxx

    fatherboxx Well-Known Member

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    Emily has ordinary grenades also which usually go to kill the light infantry engineer - Krit has a bit more chance to dodge
    but yeah you are boned either way if you get paired against a E/M heavy army (most of them are these days) and mk5/Dart effortlessly nullifies the whole list
     
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  12. zapp

    zapp Well-Known Member

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    If you own both models, painted them and want to see them on the table, I would think of the following list that has still 12 orders, a good 2nd attack piece and a very nice ARO model.

    I own them, painted them and wanna play them
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    GŪIJIĂ MULTI HMG, Heavy Flamethrower / AP CCW. (2 | 88)
    [​IMG] GŪIJIĂ PILOT Light Flamethrower / Pistol, Knife. ()
    KOKRAM FTO (Fireteam: Duo) Combi Rifle + E/Mitter, Chain-colt, E/Mauler / 2 Heavy Pistols, Knife. (0 | 39)
    DĀOYĪNG Lieutenant L2 Hacker (Hacking Device) Boarding Shotgun / Breaker Pistol, Knife. (0.5 | 29)
    MÓWÁNG (NCO) Red Fury, Akrylat-Kanone / Heavy Pistol, Knife. (1 | 52)
    HǍIDÀO (Multispectral Visor L2) MULTI Sniper / Breaker Pistol, Knife. (1.5 | 37)
    ZHANSHI Combi Rifle + Light Grenade Launcher / Pistol, Knife. (1 | 15)
    ZHANSHI Paramedic (MediKit) Combi Rifle / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 13)
    ZHANSHI (Forward Observer) Combi Rifle / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 12)
    ZHANSHI (Forward Observer) Combi Rifle / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 12)
    WARCOR (360º Visor) Flash Pulse / Stun Pistol, Knife. (0 | 3)

    6 SWC | 300 Points

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  13. IAGO242

    IAGO242 Executive Officer

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    This makes me buy Krit. Tybg.
     
  14. Maksimas

    Maksimas Maxi

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    I mean... he's an HI, and he has a profile with a gun and another with a deployable and he's a specialist...
    That's about it about him, from my view.

    I don't like him, I don't dislike him, he's just a very very average HI specialist.

    That would be the first case of a mixed Duo in Vanilla as far as I am aware.
     
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  15. Sedral

    Sedral Invincible Officier

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    That's what I have so far:

    Krit Test
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    GROUP 1[​IMG] [​IMG] [​IMG]10
    ZÚYŎNG (Fireteam: Duo, Tactical Awareness) HMG / 2 Breaker Pistols, Knife. (1.5 | 38)
    ZÚYŎNG (Fireteam: Haris, Tactical Awareness) Combi Rifle + 1 TinBot B (Deflector L2) / 2 Breaker Pistols, Knife. (0.5 | 34)
    KOKRAM FTO (Fireteam: Duo) Combi Rifle + E/Mitter, Chain-colt, E/Mauler / 2 Heavy Pistols, Knife. (0 | 39)
    ZHANSHI Lieutenant Combi Rifle / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 11)
    ZHANSHI Combi Rifle / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 11)
    ZHANSHI Combi Rifle / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 11)
    ZHANSHI Hacker (Hacking Device) Combi Rifle / Pistol, Knife. (0.5 | 19)
    HǍIDÀO (Multispectral Visor L2) MULTI Sniper / Breaker Pistol, Knife. (1.5 | 37)
    LÙ DUĀN Mk12, Heavy Flamethrower / Electric Pulse. (0 | 21)
    PANGGULING FTO (Repeater) Light Shotgun / Electric Pulse. (0 | 13)

    GROUP 2[​IMG] [​IMG] [​IMG]4
    ZHĒNCHÁ (Forward Observer) Submachine Gun, D.E.P., Antipersonnel Mines / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 34)
    WÈIBĪNG Yaókòng Combi Rifle, Sniffer / Electric Pulse. (0 | 16)
    CHAĪYÌ Yaókòng Flash Pulse, Sniffer / Electric Pulse. (0 | 8)
    CHAĪYÌ Yaókòng Flash Pulse, Sniffer / Electric Pulse. (0 | 8)

    4 SWC | 300 Points

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    I can also make a fireteam core with the zuyongs, the haidao and the pangulling if needs be, something I can't do with my usual HMG/Tinbot/KHD haris, which is nice.
     
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  16. Mahtamori

    Mahtamori Well-Known Member

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    I'm considering potentially using him for a Hunting Party list for a tournament in a few days, simply because he's a character and everything linkable in IA are Line Infantry or Specially Trained (why Shang-Ji, why?).

    Then again, if Raging Heroes delivers in time for my slow painting, I might run Dahshat instead.
     
  17. Miraclebutt

    Miraclebutt Well-Known Member

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    Big G and Little S
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    GŪIJIĂ MULTI HMG, Heavy Flamethrower / AP CCW. (2 | 88)
    [​IMG] GŪIJIĂ PILOT Light Flamethrower / Pistol, Knife. ()
    SHÀNG JÍ (Fireteam: Haris, Tactical Awareness) Combi Rifle + Light Flamethrower + TinBot B (Deflector L2) / Pistol, Shock CCW. (0.5 | 43)
    TAI SHENG Mk12, Chain-colt, Stun Grenades / Heavy Pistol, Knife. (0 | 45)
    ZÚYŎNG (Fireteam: Duo, Tactical Awareness) HMG / 2 Breaker Pistols, Knife. (1.5 | 38)
    HǍIDÀO Hacker (Killer Hacking Device) Boarding Shotgun / Breaker Pistol, Knife. (0 | 26)
    PANGGULING FTO (Repeater) Light Shotgun / Electric Pulse. (0 | 13)
    SON-BAE Yaókòng Smart Missile Launcher / Electric Pulse. (1.5 | 18)
    ZHANSHI Lieutenant Combi Rifle / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 11)
    MECH-ENGINEER Combi Rifle, D-Charges / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 15)
    WARCOR (360º Visor) Flash Pulse / Stun Pistol, Knife. (0 | 3)

    5.5 SWC | 300 Points

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    You can sorta fit a Tai Sheng Zuyong link in there, but it's tight and you end up having to hotswap the Shang Ji a bit, which sorta defeats the purpose.
     
  18. Mahtamori

    Mahtamori Well-Known Member

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    While I don't like the 9+1 order format, why would you hotswap the Shang-Ji?
     
  19. Section9

    Section9 Well-Known Member

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    Unless you end up with 11 orders by taking the 2x Zanshi Doc/Eng.



    With a very high cost. Dropping Automedikit would save 4 points.
     
  20. Savnock

    Savnock Nerfherder

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    What fatherboxx said. SSL2 and a higher PH make Krit a lot more likely to Dodge. He's also more likely to tank a hit.

    As a StarCo player, I view the ability to pick off doctors and engineers as a really nice two-fer... remove an Order, remove the ability to recover key troops from E/M or LGL hits... and it's also pretty demoralizing. Emily is actually broken, but I'll still use her as a crutch without compunction against players who are flat-out better at the game than me (which is at least half the crowd at an event like Interplanetario :D ). Anyways, Krit is mildly more Emily-proof.
     
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