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Discussion in 'PanOceania' started by Make PanO Great Again :P, Mar 2, 2020.

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  1. eciu

    eciu Easter worshiper

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    Oh, I've missed a K1 MMR rifle.... (I wanted to start complainging about Vargs's close range weapons, and inability to remove MSV2 snipers).

    Ok, Vargars have Sensor+WildParrot profile.

    They are actually quite good.
     
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  2. Stiopa

    Stiopa Trust The Fuckhead

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    Spitfire and HRL aren't that close ranged, either :P

    In general I really like this particular mix, Vargars are clear stars here. On a whole this looks like a TOTAL FIREPOWER sectorial.
     
  3. eciu

    eciu Easter worshiper

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    It's funny that among all that HI, and SHI (S5 HI) the guy with 2 Feubarach is ... LI xD

    I suspect this decision was made by the same guy who gave ML to Extremaly Impetues crazy poor knights ;P
     
  4. MikeTheScrivener

    MikeTheScrivener O-12 Peace Kepper

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    Svalarheima’s Winter Force
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    VARG (Minelayer) K1 Marksman Rifle, Antipersonnel Mines / Pistol, CC Weapon. (0.5 | 30)

    0.5 SWC | 30 Points

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    Out of all the wacky profiles – this is the one that stands out to me the most as something special and worth talking about
     
  5. eciu

    eciu Easter worshiper

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    Also: you can have a link of Nisses/ORCs/Machinist/KoJ .... which for sure is at least interesting.

    Well, you can Super-Jump your way towards enemy MSV2, place a mine and shoot him with K1 ?
     
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    Stiopa Trust The Fuckhead

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    I wonder if it's the same guy who made Blue Wolves S5. I imagine at least a few ruffled feathers when people catch on :P
     
  7. eciu

    eciu Easter worshiper

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    Well, finally we can have proper TAG CC fights!
     
  8. Teslarod

    Teslarod when in doubt, Yeet

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    Standout Profiles for N3

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    NØKK (Forward Observer) Boarding Shotgun, Panzerfaust / Pistol, CC Weapon. (0 | 25)
    KARHU Paramedic (MediKit) MULTI Rifle, Blitzen, Antipersonnel Mines / Pistol, CC Weapon. (0 | 27)
    VARG (Sensor) Combi Rifle, Heavy Flamethrower, WildParrot / Pistol, CC Weapon. (0 | 26)
    VARG (Minelayer) K1 Marksman Rifle, Antipersonnel Mines / Pistol, CC Weapon. (0.5 | 30)
    VARG (Forward Observer) Heavy Rocket Launcher, Light Shotgun / Pistol, CC Weapon. (1.5 | 25)
    ORC (Fireteam: Haris, Mountain Terrain, Climbing Plus) Boarding Shotgun + 1 TinBot A (Deflector L1) / Pistol, Knife. (0.5 | 39)
    LOCUST Submachine Gun, D-Charges, WildParrot / Pistol, DA CCW, Knife. (0 | 27)
    LIANG KAI Chain Rifle, Light Shotgun, Flash Pulse / Pistol, EXP CC Weapon. (0 | 22)
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    Very nice utility here.
    Loving the mobility for Sval replacing Dart.

    Actually expect a bunch of changes and missing new Skill(combinations) we'll have to wait for till N4. Hidden Deployment being unrelated to Camo for instance. Almost dead certain one of the ODD troops will have that and it's missing from the YJ Camo guy who is confirmed to have it.
    Overall mostly missing the reworks/Sval only Profiles for existing troops like Jotum, Nisse and Fusiliers.
    All the other weird stuff is probably temporary bugs (Locust has 2 AHD Profiles, 1 of them 3 points cheaper and 0 SWC - that's definitely going to be a KHD) or transition problems with pricing profiles designed for N4 with N3 backwards compatibility.
     
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  9. eciu

    eciu Easter worshiper

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    Ok, so there are some new tools.

    Quesion is if they are enough to make up for lack of AD/Camo......
     
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  10. MikeTheScrivener

    MikeTheScrivener O-12 Peace Kepper

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    As Tesla pointed out, if Locust or Nokk hidden deploy becomes a thing I think they'll go a long way for keeping these troops alive on the reactive turn, there is also a decent amount of minelayer for PanO, which is for interesting. I think these things combined with a ton of DZ firepower gives sval a good chance of being competitive.
     
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  11. Solar

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    Karhu - Great unit. Excellent in vanilla and the Sectoral, the Medic and Engineers are fantastic objective grabbers and the double Feurbach with mines will crack TAGs and HI really well, which will be very useful in future. Plus DUAL FEUERBACH that's bangin. Think of it like this; PanO has an MSV1 Mimetism Climbing Plus BS 13 Autocannon. That's really good. That's Tankhunter good. Okay Tankhunters have camo which is awesome but they are slower, they are less mobile, they have inferior stats etc.

    Nokken - ODD and FD with decent stats and a variety of useful profiles. Killer Hackers are good. Minelayer is good. Spitfire is good. Lot of good stuff here. If you want a button pusher who starts up the board in PanO you're looking at Locusts, Croc Men and these guys and these guys are cheaper than the others. 25pts for that FO is a bargain, short range killer, long range nasty ARO etc.

    Infirmarers - I guess

    Vargr - Very interesting and a lot to digest but I suspect these guys are awesome and really fun/interesting to use

    Boyg - Yeahhh boyg this is cool. Full Auto Missile Launcher! The Mk12 is probably a slightly better profile in reality but they're good and fun. I like em. Duo is relevant so you can drag a specialist too.
     
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  12. Freki

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    I am with Teslarod here, wait and see what N4 rebalance has in stock
     
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    Yeah...no. N3 was supposed to make Bolts some ungodly powerful thing with Drop Bears. We've all seen how that played out.

    Everything can't always be "wait and see what N<insert next edition number here> does!".
     
  14. Solar

    Solar Well-Known Member

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    Yeah but also there is a new edition so you do kind of have to just wait and see

    You might not want to

    But you also kinda do
     
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  15. eciu

    eciu Easter worshiper

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    True, but I was commenting on obvious current state of things ;P
     
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  16. eciu

    eciu Easter worshiper

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    @Teslarod

    I think FA Mk12 Boyg need a honorable mentions for being HI HMG/Spitfire for 0 SWC... on the other hand he costs 55 pts ... which is kinda ridiculous on it's own.

    As much as I hate CB cheating their own formula, at least we can have a piece of the cake too.
     
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  17. MikeTheScrivener

    MikeTheScrivener O-12 Peace Kepper

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    even still, minelayer + DZ firepower is pretty decent defense. I think the biggest problem is non-link team active turn shooters.

    theres really no Rambo supremacy piece. but that's maybe alright, it works for Varuna
     
  18. Crusader

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    In Svala the ORCs have Fireteam: Core and Fireteam: Haris in their base stats / abilities. So why are there extra haris skill options? :D
     
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  19. MikeTheScrivener

    MikeTheScrivener O-12 Peace Kepper

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    not sure, doesn't look like you pay anything for it though
     
  20. eciu

    eciu Easter worshiper

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    Also:

    KoJ ML vs Boyg ML. It would seem that we are really missing something here (N4 probably) as the Boyg would make little sense versus fully operational battle station linkable KoJ.
     
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