That is a really deep read into what I wrote... I don't think I would call any of what I wrote "spin", and I certainly don't care about any perceived or real emotions you, I, or anyone else has in this conversation. I was pretty sure I did address most of your points though? Can you let me know where I was unclear or what points of yours I missed? To your original argument, yes, there are pieces that outperform JSA in CC. But the solution to a problem that is good at CC is almost never to CC it, even in JSA. The reality of Ajax is that he's pretty likely to make it to the thing he wants to kill. So the solution is to make that hard for him. He's got Combi rangebands at best, so any orders your opponent needs to spend dealing with AROs are orders they aren't spending on Ajax. (Even the weakest ARO pieces still do their job here). Ajax is also slow for an N4 HI, and will be relying on either his innate tankiness or another piece's smoke to deliver himself. He's also larger than most things he will want to target, which gives you an advantage in terms of lines of sight if Ajax wants to run into CC with someone (coming in on a tight angle from around a corner is going to be more difficult for Ajax because of his base size). But the reality is that you need to accept that much like a Fiday or Shinobu, if Ajax picks a target and decides he wants to kill it, it will very probably die. But on the flip side, put any linked B5 gun into Ajax from more than 8.5 inches away, and Ajax will also drop pretty quickly. The Kempei Shock MMR can do this just fine, and the MSV2 probably makes it come out about even to the Kempei/Domaru Spitfire per order. A linked Keisotsu and some basic Repeater coverage (your Chaiyi, Rui Shi, and Panguling) can also help slow him down, and the Lu Duan has a Deployable Repeater now. Ajax is good, but he definitely isn't able to "tank an entire JSA list." There's a reason that Ajax's FD profile costs 1/6 of your list, but Musashi only costs 1/15th (or 1/12th) of it.