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Jammers in fireteams

Discussion in 'Rules' started by Hiereth, Apr 27, 2019.

  1. Hiereth

    Hiereth AI Artichoke

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    With the new spec ops rules Haqq and PanO can squeeze Jammers into fireteams, I'm fairly sure they'd benefit from the five man bonus, being a bs attack with WIP, but I am unsure about the burst bonus, thoughts?
     
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  2. Teslarod

    Teslarod Trebuchet Enthusiast

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    A Jammer is not a BS Attack, it is a Comms Attack.

    So no, Jammer doesn't benefit from a +3 or Burst Bonus.

    Scratch that, a Jammers is a BS weapon after all
     
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  3. Hiereth

    Hiereth AI Artichoke

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    • The user of a Jammer can declare a BS Attack using his WIP Attribute against a target within his ZoC. However, this weapon does not require LoF to the target.
    so despite this then.
     
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  4. Teslarod

    Teslarod Trebuchet Enthusiast

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    Nope you were right, Jammers are BS weapons.
    So you get the full +3 WIP B2 bullshit for them in a Core Link.
    Ouch.
     
  5. Hiereth

    Hiereth AI Artichoke

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    This is why i wasn't sure, they are a bs attack using WIP with a technical weapon, so to my understanding they benefit from the +3 but not +1 Burst.
     
  6. Mahtamori

    Mahtamori Well-Known Member

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    Jammers are BS Weapons, they are not skills like Forward Observer, so the Burst bonus should still apply as long as you don't do an Intuitive Attack with it. Technical weapons and thrown weapons still get the burst bonus.
     
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  7. Hiereth

    Hiereth AI Artichoke

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    Alright, just wasn't seeing the BS weapon tag anywhere.
     
  8. Sedral

    Sedral Invincible Officier

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    Also 6th sense L2.
     
  9. inane.imp

    inane.imp Well-Known Member

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    Most accurate sentence in this thread:
    "Jammers are a BS weapon."
     
  10. Someone

    Someone Active Member

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    Jammers with 6th Sense? So they can delay ARO and prevent the active model from Resetting or am I missing something?
     
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  11. Zewrath

    Zewrath Nordic Master

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    Exactly
     
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  12. Sedral

    Sedral Invincible Officier

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    Haqqislam also has hafza spec-ops and holoprojector as an option for muyibs/ghulam, so you can disguise your wip 15 jammer as a random link member and wait for your opponent to spring the trap.
     
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  13. JoKeR

    JoKeR HAWZA Instructor
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    well, can you not say it so aloud please? :wink:
     
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  14. eciu

    eciu Easter worshiper

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    xD <3 xD
     
  15. eciu

    eciu Easter worshiper

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    Nah Eraser is still better ;P
     
  16. eciu

    eciu Easter worshiper

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    Ok, This seems even more complicated, stupid and just straithgt retarded.

    From the HSN3 pdfs:
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    So that the wording is like the Forward Observe which doesnt get a link bonuses.

    Sooo what the heck Jammer is ?

    @ijw @inane.imp
     
  17. Mahtamori

    Mahtamori Well-Known Member

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    You've zoomed in too much and you're missing context and weapon profile. Look at the weapon next to it.

    Forward Observer comes with its own skill, Jammer does not, but instead directs you to use a BS Attack with this weapon.
     
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  18. inane.imp

    inane.imp Well-Known Member

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  19. eciu

    eciu Easter worshiper

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    Then how does Flash Pulse works ?
     
  20. inane.imp

    inane.imp Well-Known Member

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    It's on the Types of Weapons page so is therefore a weapon.
     
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