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Discussion in 'Rules' started by Pyra, May 18, 2019.

  1. Urobros

    Urobros Well-Known Member

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    I continue saying: Kriigel, Tricore, Eraser... And you don't need Spec Ops to have it... But maybe we should open a new thread to speak about this?
     
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  2. Section9

    Section9 Well-Known Member

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    I mean something like a High WIP super-specialist, or packing gear not normally available to the faction (like smoke grenades in PanO)

    Example:
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    FUSILIER (Infinity Spec-Ops) (12 XP) (WIP:13, Doctor, Engineer, Hacking Device) Combi Rifle / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 11)

    0 SWC | 11 Points

    Open in Infinity Army

    You can only get +1WIP over your base trooper now if you grab all the major specialties.
     
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  3. BLOODGOD

    BLOODGOD Vampire Hunter

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    Emphasis mine.
    You mean with extras? Because it seems like a lot of the big tournaments in the US have been picking the silly unbalanced missions for a couple years now.
     
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  4. MikeTheScrivener

    MikeTheScrivener O-12 Peace Kepper

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    Can you give me some examples?
     
  5. jimbo slice

    jimbo slice Well-Known Member

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    Use one generic profile for all factions, make it wildcard, and use the same (expanded) skill/weapon/equipment list for everyone. With enough options for skills, weapons, and equipment there will be plenty of variation between players without some factions getting indisputably better profiles (looking at you, Haqq) to use as the base.
    What's the point of ITS, including the ranking it provides, if it isn't taken seriously? Might as well scrap the OTM and ranking system and just have a mission document with general guidelines if all we want are goofy, randomized tournaments. Or just play Orks :stuck_out_tongue_winking_eye:
     
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  6. MikeTheScrivener

    MikeTheScrivener O-12 Peace Kepper

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    This would still be unbalanced though. giving every faction/sectorial the same options betrays the design philosophy of intentionally leaving items/skills out of those sectorials or factions in the first place. imo spec ops we're always unbalanced and silly because of this reason.

    Alright first of all you have to recognize there is a middle ground between those two things.

    imo the problem with the ITS ranking right now is that every game is weighted more or less the same. There should be some type of "tournament" levels where various events are weighted differently. I can theoretically buy a bunch of online 1-shots and only play my roommate and climb the ranks that way. I'll get diminishing returns on them if I do it too much but for the most part they're weighted the same as playing at a satellite.
     
  7. ijw

    ijw Wargaming Trader, Freelance Editor (UK)
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    Not according to the ITS PDF. One-shots have a K-factor of 4, which means that a win or loss should only have a small impact on your Elo ranking. Tournaments default to 32, which means wins and losses have a substantially larger impact on Elo rankings. I have a vague memory of the K-factor for Satellites being even higher, but I can't find a reference so that might not be the case.
     
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  8. MikeTheScrivener

    MikeTheScrivener O-12 Peace Kepper

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    Interesting.

    Elsewhere on the internet I've heard that one of the top UK players, according to ITS, was some hermit who only ever played in his house with one-shots. Perhaps it's not as dramatic as I was lead to believe.

    Thanks for the info though!
     
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  9. ijw

    ijw Wargaming Trader, Freelance Editor (UK)
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    That was before ITS moved over to using Elo rankings, when it was purely additive. I suspect it was one of the things that pushed CB towards using an actual ranking system as there was a lot of fuss at the time.
     
  10. Aspect Graviton

    Aspect Graviton Friendly Alien Overlord
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    I've now got this wonderful mental image of players making a pilgrimage to deepest darkest Grimsby and and banging on pans outside somebodys house while shouting "Teach me your ways of ARO deployment oh wise one! I bring tribute in the form of chocolate hobnobs and a four pack of monster!"
     
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  11. MikeTheScrivener

    MikeTheScrivener O-12 Peace Kepper

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    unfortunately they would be visiting a false prophet as I heard he wasnt that good in the end.... eek!
     
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  12. Koni

    Koni BanHammer
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