Discussion in 'ITS' started by Lazarus0909, Feb 6, 2018.
Anyone can be Doctored as long as they have Wounds and are Unconscious. Even enemy troopers.
Doctor etc. mentions troopers in the description but not Civilians. So can we heal Civilians as well? Question: The Designated Target is an enemy trooper to my opponent, but what is it to me? My understanding says: HVT (Civilian), so I can't heal it.
The user must be in base to base contact with his target.
The target must have a Wounds Attribute.
The target must be in Unconscious state.
Doctor allows the user, by passing a Normal WIP Roll, to heal 1 point of the target's Wounds Attribute and cancel his Unconscious state back to Normal.
Actually I misspoke slightly - you can't Doctor an enemy trooper because it's not a Skill allowed in Engaged state, but a Civilian is definitely fair game.
So any HVT that isn't an enemy Designated Target is fine.
Since you said the several bullet points in a rule are not independent from each other, how does that interact with the following bullet points? Can't I heal the HVT after it's rendered unconcious again because it's no trooper?
Makes sense to me, but I'm at a loss as to what happens if you kill your own DT by failing the roll.
Opponent get points for them dying, but not bonus points if the mission gives them? Theoretically you could steal the +3 Datatracker points in Decapitation away even if you don't revive them
Seems bullshit if your opponent knocks your DT unconscious with their Datatracker, then you mercy kill it with your doctor to deny them three points. I think that should still count as a kill for the Datatracker in that case.
Unless it's not killed by the DT you won't get the extra points.
Not being able to heal the HVTs would easily fix that though.
Play like we used to do it @Tristan228. Taking the bullets under the first requirements into consideration it is your HVT = Civilian = no trooper = you can't heal it = fairplay achieved = have a nice day/match. ;)
I would understand it that way to. Your own HVT is your opponent DT so is an ennemy for him but for you it's still a neutral civilian.
So if you heal it and fail then you apply the standard civ rule (perte de tout les points d'objo + l'adversaire en gagne automatiquement 2 supplémentaires) :
However, if any player causes harm to a Civilian (meaning the Civilian enters a Null state), then that player automatically loses the game and any Objective Points he would have gotten. In addition, in a compensatory way, the player's opponent gets 2 extra Objective Points, but these points cannot bring his total number above 10.
This is like a law argument on a trial. The rules aren't clear beacuse its pdf and normal rules aren't 100% accured.
Reagarding htv and datatracker kill. As you can only have one in my zone we assumed that if player A put in null state enemy designed civilian or datatracker and it end the game in this state, we earn the points. If player B using doc can heal his designed HTV or his datatracker before the end of the game player A must kill it again. If player B fail the doc roll or player A kill directly the HTV or datatracker, player A earn the points.
In decapitation is diferent beacuse if your leutinent falls nule you should heal it before the end of the turn, beacuse during your next turn you will get a new Leutinent. If you have chain of command you simply can lose 2 Leutinents during the same turn xd.
Pd1: i think the best should be ask the staff by a clarification about killing objectives and healing. The rules just didn't fix it and every interpretation must change them.
Pd2: sorry for my bad english
Chain of command is an optional skill so doesnt have to be used.
To be perfectly honest, I don't see eye to eye with IJW's interpretation that a Datatracker is awarded the kill on a DT if they let the mission timer land the finishing blow, so I'd say killing the HVT via Medikit doesn't really rob anyone of anything.