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It's official JSA are NA2 and no longer Yu Jing

Discussion in 'Yu Jing' started by Triumph, Mar 2, 2018.

  1. Aldo

    Aldo Spare 15

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    There is nothing to win. PanO just got somewhere and declared it was the top, they have nowhere to go from there, they only get to kick the people trying to climb.
     
  2. Mahtamori

    Mahtamori Well-Known Member

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    @Hjiryon we know Aleph is actively working to destabilize both Yu Jing and Pan-O (we, as in the players). It seems they succeeded with Yu Jing, but the question is what they are concocting for Pan-O and if CB is even considering this path. Of note, however, is that Ariadna is currently sitting on a population of about 10M (i.e. significantly less than say... Norway back on Earth, who should be somewhere near the 20M at time of the setting, even if they don't have Tesseum mines), this is barely enough to keep an inter-atmosphere air force off the ground and only if they work together, so plot armour for smaller factions is pretty damned thick.

    @krossaks ISS is definitely higher on the curve than vanilla, and one of the strongest in game, but I'm not convinced this means top 5. Whether this is down to who is playing or not playing ISS, however, is harder to analyse, and I can only guess whether rough faction rankings for the top players are down to specific people choosing to play or not play certain sectorials.
     
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  3. Yasashii Fuyu

    Yasashii Fuyu Well-Known Member

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    Don't underestimate how hard CB could troll Yu Jing...they could easily claim that JSA only managed to rebell because PanO supported their rebellion with a full on invasion of the planet that includes JSA (can't look up the name at the moment) and it now belongs to PanO and JSA...which will lead to yet another PanO Sectorial incoming 2019!

    Just saying...there is no limit to how much they could screw us over for the lolz...
     
  4. xagroth

    xagroth Mournful Echo

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    Well... JSA was not very competitive. If the new one is, a lot of players will leave their current factions and go back there. I would expect the Steel Phalanx, YJ, Military Orders, and some others I can't think about right now to lose players that will go "back" or "forward" to this new JSA. And after having seen the miniatures that will be on the box, I can say that regardless of their playing value, the models are too good not to buy them... after which is a little step into "new army, let's use it" in detriment of our current ones.

    Mind you, YJ might get the hardest hit in the number of the playerbase.

    As for the online campaigns, consider that Red Veil was YJ Vs Haqquislam, and that a lot of YJ players renewed their models... while a lot of other players received a Haqquislam set of minis at a discount price. If you go back to Flamia, YJ was the leader with PanO in victories.
    Also, this shows people's "polarization": shooty needs get covered in PanO, while "magic" or "combo" needs get satisfied by the Nomads; Haqquislam gives some nice toys with a fragile but populated army, and YJ has the shooty HI that can link, something less cost-effective than having tons of camo troops :/
     
  5. Aldo

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    That would be over the top and annoying,

    So par for the course, really.

    But I seem to remember Yu Jing's fleet being better than PanOs, at least during the NeoColonial wars.
     
  6. xagroth

    xagroth Mournful Echo

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    Nah, they would need to invade one of the twin planets of YJ, the O-12 would not allow that with the CA on the doorstep. They could help indirectly, by redoubling their efforts on Varuna (blizzard forces!) and providing production and logistical support ("turning a blind eye" to "misuse" of Acontecimiento's industry for example).

    Break the enemy from within, profit from all the blood they shed but you didn't. Sun Tze might have even been the cause the uprising was "short-lived but succesful", by the simple calculation of "that will cost us too much, better to cut the gangrenous foot than to loose the leg and maybe the whole body".
     
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  7. krossaks

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    Well out Wu Mings on ISS there is not a way to play a lots of Ips apart of JSA CC links. On vanilla you can play 2 or 3 but with a lot of IL suport.
     
  8. Mahtamori

    Mahtamori Well-Known Member

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    From the quotes, this rebellion seem to be housed in Japan. Actual Earth Japan. It could well be that it's O-12 that is actively preventing Yu Jing from a full scale response due to the planet in question being Earth.
     
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  9. The_Evergrey_One

    The_Evergrey_One Well-Known Member

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    Curious how this will effect the JSA roster. We get some new profiles with the new box but might we not also loose some? Looking through ARMY it seems as the only "non-JSA" units are the remotes. I wonder if they are going to be replaced (giving us "not-tachikomas" as CB seems so fond of giving "homage" to GitS) or removed all together. So many questions, BoW-week can't come soon enough.
     
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  10. Mahtamori

    Mahtamori Well-Known Member

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    Also, let's just leave this thought here:

    JSA managed to do what the entire Pan-O and all of their knights could not.
     
  11. stevenart74

    stevenart74 Well-Known Member

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    About the Pan-Oceanian Meddling, have You noticed that the cool "Rebel Babe" Illustration that was provided sports a typical "Reverse Banana-Shaped Clip" kind of Light Gun (could be a short barrelled Combirifle, an Assault Pistol or some other previously undisclosed Pan-O Firearm). . .

    One will wonder just WHERE the Nihonjin Rebels found some nice hi-tech guns that DOES not hails from Imperial-State controlled armories. . .

    This is also very sensate from a "Chronological Progression" of the Background Timeline. . .

    From the "Outrage" Manga the Secret Services of Yujing have done a considerable blow to Pan-O pride and O12 standing ,as their "Secret Hexahedron" Black-Op Wetwork kind of Anti-Druze / Anti-Svarhalheima Independentists "Sweeping Purge" (with whom the Comic protagonists Merc Team were tasked to flawlessly executed) was happily "Wiki-Leaked" to all the Human Sphere. . .

    Maybe pissed that not only they lost a top-notch Black Team, but also they were forced to ditch a Veteran hexa Operative (Emily Handelmann, now busy compiling a detailed C.V. in a Nomad "Black Hand" recruiting center !!) and have the even potentially worse "Time Bomb" of Knauf (holding on ITS VERY necklace the phisical proof that Pan-O High Command really DOES NOT GIVE A SHIT to Anti-Cube Duplication Laws !!) on top of indirectly almost caused the Druze Society to become the possible WORST Terrorist Crime Syndacate in the WHOLE Human Sphere (I shudder to imagine what could have been the Druzes under TOTAL CONTROL of "Mad Jerico" !!!). . .

    Maybe the angry Hexas decided to throw away the gloves and deal a serious blow to the upstarts always declaring "We WILL Be Hyperpower N°1". . . . .

    Of course that the "Sengoku Basara Uprising" has happened with a serious loss of Lives and Properties of Oriental People (BOTH Nihonjin Japaneses and Zongghuo Chineses) would matter little for the Pan-Oceanians. . . . .!!!

    . . . . .

    To @Yasashii Fuyu and other potentially pissed-off Forumites playing a mixed JSA / Vanilla Yujing tabletop army. . .

    As an Ex-Exrah possessor, that completed the roster of 1 Caskuda T.A.G., 3 Iskallers, 2 Vektors and a swat of other Combined Army Troops properly "Insectified" JUST BEFORE the specific N2 kind of possible Army Roster received the "Warhammer 40.000 Squat" treatment. . .

    I feel intimately Your worries. . . . .!!!
     
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  12. krossaks

    krossaks Well-Known Member

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    It feels bad but at least the strory can move forward
     
  13. Mahtamori

    Mahtamori Well-Known Member

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    It's outright stated in the newspaper thingy that JSA has allies that use them to bleed the State. Those allies are going to above all else be Pan-O, so more reverse bananas are probably expected.
    Consider the opportunities for a more integrated Yu Jing instead. JSA profiles tended to be overburdened with CC (and it really is a burden in this edition).
    I just hope it's opportunities. No new releases and no slight reshuffling in ISS would mean it's opportunities lost.
     
  14. Triumph

    Triumph Well-Known Member

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    This whole event has been handled in a piss poor manner. Community at large is left in states ranging from confused, to pissed off, with no clear information or response to what will be done to offset the change of what is in table top gaming circles a sensitive matter.
     
  15. Mahtamori

    Mahtamori Well-Known Member

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    Very appropriate GIF, I think CB wants this to be a shell-shock kind of deal for the affected, before the full reveal of their plan. Personally, I'll avoid feeling shell-shocked until I get a more clear picture of what will be released for the Yu Jing side of the event.
     
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  16. Triumph

    Triumph Well-Known Member

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    Intentionally making your customers upset and angry is usually a pretty bad way for a marketing department to handle shit. Just saying.
     
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  17. krossaks

    krossaks Well-Known Member

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    Don't know who CB expected to approch this separation but for sure leaks didn't help
     
  18. the huanglong

    the huanglong Well-Known Member

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    Literally everyone I know who plays INFINITY knew what was happening the minute Warcors got sent the "ENOUGH" picture, it's just we hoped to be wrong.
     
  19. Primo

    Primo Well-Known Member

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    Unless he leaves to play the new JSA like more than half Yu Jing players will do
     
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