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Is Vanilla Yu Jing viable?

Discussion in 'Yu Jing' started by Zerooness, May 13, 2019.

  1. Joametz

    Joametz Chinese Empire in Space enthusiast

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    Thank you for sharing! Trying to get the cat (su jian) or the spider (rui shi) into their bad range sounds plausible taking into account the usual terrain configurations we run in my meta.
     
  2. IAGO242

    IAGO242 Executive Officer

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    I really want to move back to vanilla from IA soon now.
    This would be fun. You can also switch out the Hac Tao for 2x Tiger Soldiers and an extra monk. I just wanted to run the Yan Huo more as its just such a cool model, and can attempt to fight a defensive link with B5.


    Vanilla A
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    GROUP 1[​IMG] [​IMG] [​IMG]10 [​IMG]4
    HAC TAO Hacker (Killer Hacking Device) MULTI Rifle, Nanopulser / Pistol, DA CCW. (0 | 67)
    YĀN HUǑ Hyper-Rapid Magnetic Cannon / Pistol, Knife. (2 | 54)
    KUANG SHI Chain Rifle / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 5)
    KUANG SHI Chain Rifle / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 5)
    KUANG SHI Chain Rifle / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 5)
    KUANG SHI Chain Rifle / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 5)
    CELESTIAL GUARD (Kuang Shi Control Device) Combi Rifle + Light Smoke Grenade Launcher / Pistol, Knife. (0.5 | 13)
    DĀOYĪNG Lieutenant L2 Hacker (Hacking Device) Boarding Shotgun / Breaker Pistol, Knife. (0.5 | 29)
    GŬILÁNG (Forward Observer, Deployable Repeater) Combi Rifle, Antipersonnel Mines / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 27)
    CHAĪYÌ Yaókòng Flash Pulse, Sniffer / Electric Pulse. (0 | 8)

    GROUP 2[​IMG] [​IMG] [​IMG]4 [​IMG]2 [​IMG]2
    WÈIBĪNG Yaókòng Combi Rifle, Sniffer / Electric Pulse. (0 | 16)
    Zhanshi YĪSHĒNG Combi Rifle / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 15)
    YÁOZĂO Electric Pulse. (0 | 3)
    MECH-ENGINEER Combi Rifle, D-Charges / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 15)
    YÁOZĂO Electric Pulse. (0 | 3)
    RUI SHI Spitfire / Electric Pulse. (1 | 20)
    SHAOLIN Chain Rifle, Smoke Grenades / Pistol, Shock CCW. (0 | 5)
    SHAOLIN Chain Rifle, Smoke Grenades / Pistol, Shock CCW. (0 | 5)

    4 SWC | 300 Points

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  3. crouchingotter

    crouchingotter New Member

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    I might give that list a try myself some time. It'd give a me a reason to paint up a Hac Tao :)

    This is what I've been using recently and I'm getting to grips with it:

    300pts Vanilla 2019 v3
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    GROUP 1[​IMG] [​IMG] [​IMG]10
    DĀOYĪNG Lieutenant L2 Hacker (Hacking Device) Boarding Shotgun / Breaker Pistol, Knife. (0.5 | 29)
    MECH-ENGINEER Combi Rifle, D-Charges / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 15)
    Zhanshi YĪSHĒNG Combi Rifle / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 15)
    GŬILÁNG (Forward Observer, Deployable Repeater) Combi Rifle, Antipersonnel Mines / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 27)
    RUI SHI Spitfire / Electric Pulse. (1 | 20)
    WÈIBĪNG Yaókòng Combi Rifle, Sniffer / Electric Pulse. (0 | 16)
    HÙSÒNG Yaókòng HMG / Electric Pulse. (1 | 25)
    CHAĪYÌ Yaókòng Flash Pulse, Sniffer / Electric Pulse. (0 | 8)
    YĀN HUǑ 2 Missile Launchers + TinBot C (Neurocinetics) / Pistol, Knife. (2 | 56)
    NINJA Hacker (Killer Hacking Device) Tactical Bow / Pistol, DA CCW, Knife. (0 | 29)
    YÁOZĂO Electric Pulse. (0 | 3)
    YÁOZĂO Electric Pulse. (0 | 3)
    GROUP 2[​IMG] [​IMG] [​IMG]5 [​IMG]4 [​IMG]8
    CELESTIAL GUARD (Kuang Shi Control Device) Combi Rifle + Light Smoke Grenade Launcher / Pistol, Knife. (0.5 | 13)
    KUANG SHI Chain Rifle / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 5)
    KUANG SHI Chain Rifle / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 5)
    KUANG SHI Chain Rifle / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 5)
    KUANG SHI Chain Rifle / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 5)
    SHAOLIN Chain Rifle, Smoke Grenades / Pistol, Shock CCW. (0 | 5)
    SHAOLIN Chain Rifle, Smoke Grenades / Pistol, Shock CCW. (0 | 5)
    SHAOLIN Chain Rifle, Smoke Grenades / Pistol, Shock CCW. (0 | 5)
    SHAOLIN Chain Rifle, Smoke Grenades / Pistol, Shock CCW. (0 | 5)
    5 SWC | 299 Points
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  4. IAGO242

    IAGO242 Executive Officer

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    Yeah I dig that list too! It has a much better ARO game.
     
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  5. Space Ranger

    Space Ranger Well-Known Member

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    Please don’t anyone, take this the wrong way. I keep feeling that Kuang Shi are a crutch. Yu Jing shouldn’t need them to win games. I’m sure 20pts could be spent on something that can do better than 4 KS. Personally I think a Lu Duan is fantastic! Or 33pts if you count the CG with control device.

    Oh and in my experience the Neurocinetic Yan Huo is not good. In both ARO and Active you are going to be out gunned. I’d rather in active have 2 shots vs. 1 in active turn, rather that 2 in ARO vs. 3-5.
     
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  6. Joametz

    Joametz Chinese Empire in Space enthusiast

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    I do love some nice exploding zombies, but I agree that they are not necessary to win games. It's just that they are so efficient...

    On the Yan Huo point: I also agree. I don't like it in reactive, especially since it doesn't have either Courage nor negative visual mods/visor. But the model is so nice though.
     
  7. Space Ranger

    Space Ranger Well-Known Member

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    It's fine with the regular in active turn. It's 2 missiles vs. 1 ARO, maybe 2 if going against a link.
     
  8. crouchingotter

    crouchingotter New Member

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    Cheers! I saw your list and thought...”that’s rather similar to how I put mine together”.
    Your opinion is fair.

    I wanted to do an order-spam list in Vanilla Yu Jung and so that kinda needs those four 5pt exploding zombies. In terms of the Yan Huo, I probably have less experience than you with the model but so far he's been golden for me. He's been a pain in the backside for Joan and her Pain Train as well as Vanilla Ariadna. Sure, be been beaten before but that's where the friendly Yaozao comes and picks him back up :)
    Yeah I'd heard a lot about the Neurocinetics guy being under par. I'm finding him to be quite effective so far but that could all change :)
     
  9. Space Ranger

    Space Ranger Well-Known Member

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    Another thing with Yan Huo with Neuro is that he essentially can't go prone. Not if you want him to ARO that is.

    If I want to take it out i'd have no fear of him by just going with a high burst weapon.
     
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  10. crouchingotter

    crouchingotter New Member

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    That’s nice. I still like him in my list at the mo.


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  11. IAGO242

    IAGO242 Executive Officer

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    I have been really pissed off when my Neuro Yan Huo goes Probe at bad times. But yeah, some games he does very easily, others he locks down a lane perfectly.

    But I prefer the HRMC, as an answer to links. DA is still a good aro, or go into sup.
     
  12. Space Ranger

    Space Ranger Well-Known Member

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    I got nailed by a Multi HMG in a haris link the other day. When you have so much burst and great BS, never be afraid to split fire. My Shasvstii were mowed down!
     
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  13. IAGO242

    IAGO242 Executive Officer

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    Yu Jing──────────────────────────────────────────────────[​IMG]10
    GŬILÁNG Hacker (Assault Hacking Device) Combi Rifle, Antipersonnel Mines / Pistol, Knife. (0.5 | 31)
    TIGER SOLDIER Paramedic (MediKit) Combi Rifle + Light Flamethrower / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 29)
    YĀN HUǑ Hyper-Rapid Magnetic Cannon / Pistol, Knife. (2 | 54)
    DĀOYĪNG Lieutenant L2 Hacker (Hacking Device) Boarding Shotgun / Breaker Pistol, Knife. (0.5 | 29)
    HAC TAO Hacker (Killer Hacking Device) MULTI Rifle, Nanopulser / Pistol, DA CCW. (0 | 67)
    RUI SHI Spitfire / Electric Pulse. (1 | 20)
    CELESTIAL GUARD (Kuang Shi Control Device) Combi Rifle + Light Smoke Grenade Launcher / Pistol, Knife. (0.5 | 13)
    MECH-ENGINEER Combi Rifle, D-Charges / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 15)
    HÙSÒNG Yaókòng HMG / Electric Pulse. (1 | 25)
    Zhanshi YĪSHĒNG Combi Rifle / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 15) 5.5 SWC | 298 PointsOpen in Infinity Army

    This would be fun!
     
  14. Triumph

    Triumph Well-Known Member

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    I build my Vanilla lists with and without Kuang Shi, I find their presence is negotiable and it's usually when I'm running hot on SWC. I don't think Vanilla can really justify giving up Monks though I can't really see any reason to not bring at least 2 of them.
     
  15. IAGO242

    IAGO242 Executive Officer

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    Yeah Kuang Shi are definitely not necessary but we have many order hungry rambo troops...

    Agree with the comment re Yan Huo, I don't use the Neuro dude anymore because he always hides when his only job is to not hide. I think the HRMC is just way better, it allows you to take on link teams in active turn.

    edit: Lol I didn't realise I literally said the same thing twice...
     
  16. Triumph

    Triumph Well-Known Member

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    To answer OP's question though, Vanilla Yu Jing took second at Novacore over the weekend (Dahshat taking first). I think @daboarder lost to Dahshat in the final round with MO.
     
  17. RobertShepherd

    RobertShepherd Brisk antipodean

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    We have three vanilla YJ players locally and their lists post-Invincibles are some of the most degenerate and egregious damned-if-you-do exercises I've ever seen and they scare me to pieces. I might be a little jealous.

    If anyone listens to White Noise, there'll be an upcoming interview with the player who took them to second place (undefeated on five majors) at a 90+ player event in Australia this past weekend.
     
  18. IAGO242

    IAGO242 Executive Officer

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    Congrats on your win btw! Didn't get to meet you, maybe next time :)

    Keen to see the runner-ups list!
     
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  19. Azuset

    Azuset Well-Known Member

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    Do you have those lists?
     
  20. Savnock

    Savnock Nerfherder

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    Here's another call for those lists if you can get 'em! Would love to read what that player used as their beatsticks and bait units.