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Is this webstore legit?

Discussion in 'Distributors & Shops' started by Belgrim, Oct 23, 2019.

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  1. Belgrim

    Belgrim Well-Known Member

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  2. ijw

    ijw Wargaming Trader, Freelance Editor (UK)
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    The prices are lower than wholesale (aka it's impossible to sell legitimate models at that price without losing money), and there's no contact info or information on where the company is based. They're almost guaranteed to be recasters.

    EDIT and the domain itself has the registrar's information redacted, which is another dodgy sign on top of the others.
     
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  3. Armihaul

    Armihaul Well-Known Member

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    As far as I know about that page, the kingdom death and confrontation ones are resin recasts. I don't know about the infinity ones. but seems the same
     
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  4. Belgrim

    Belgrim Well-Known Member

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    Shame...
    I actually mailed them today and asked them if they sell original miniatures or if they are recasts. I dont think i'm gonna get an answer.

    Also they have a shop on facebook and they post stuff there. I thought recast shops are illegal, how can they have this shop for so many months online?
     
  5. Armihaul

    Armihaul Well-Known Member

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    that depends on their country laws, if there is copyright/trademark laws, how are them and so.
     
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  6. xagroth

    xagroth Mournful Echo

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    Having a look at it...
    Victor Messer - almost 15€
    Libertos SMG - 15€
    Selling the SoF characters box indivudally...
    Some boxes at half price, others at 35% of CB's price...

    Yeah, recaster, with price depeding on demand.
     
  7. Disko King

    Disko King Well-Known Member

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    Quality same as original.
     
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    ijw Wargaming Trader, Freelance Editor (UK)
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    If you want to the original to disappear, sure.
     
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  9. Spitfire_TheCat

    Spitfire_TheCat Feel the Wrath of the Miezi-Bot

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    Highly doubtable. I have seen one recast once. It was an older LE-Model, so didn't hurt CB directly, because only other option would have been EBay. While the recast was good, some details were shallower than the ones from CB. So, it's not the same Quality.

    Makes painting a bit harder too.
     
  10. theradrussian

    theradrussian Well-Known Member

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    As legit as the stuff you see on Wish I'd say :P
     
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  11. Disko King

    Disko King Well-Known Member

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    I play around twice a year with models I have(would not really mind if I don't play it ever again, I transited to boardgames so I spend my time and $$ there), don't plan to invest further into Infinity, I need actually to sell some models, so that I am only left with one army...so I don't really have my horse in this race tbh. A lot of my models were bough 2nd hand on ebay or on sale, got like 50% discount compared to retail...sometimes even more when painted.
     
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    Marduck Well-Known Member

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    Buying stuff that you know, or should have known, are infringing IP law is punished by the law in my country (France) and I'm 99% sure in most country with a judiciary system that is mildly working (if you are buying miniature I guess you live in one of these countries).

    I guess you are unlikely to get caught, but you should know.
     
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  13. Dragonstriker

    Dragonstriker That wizard came from the moon.

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    Just to throw in my 2 cents: the store is obviously not legit. It’s incredibly poor form to post that you think it’s okay, on the official forum of the company you’re endorsing theft from.
    Bans all round imo.
     
  14. Dragonstriker

    Dragonstriker That wizard came from the moon.

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    Actually, no.
     
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    Hecaton EI Anger Translator

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    It's also clearly got a url set up to make itself seem like Miniature Market.
     
  16. Del S

    Del S Yujing(snow)ball

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    They're Ukranian, or at least, their (apparently abandoned) twitter page claims so. Seem to have previously been called Legion Forge and may have ripped off stuff from The Very Big Corporation Of Nottingham. Note that there's not a single GeeDubs product in their catalogue any more. Say what you will of their games but isn't it odd any site selling tabletop wargames stuff doesn't have anything from the company that is by far the market leader?

    They seem to have tried to rename the Twitter page, but gave up and stuck to Facebook, where happily enough FB's report functions are set up to not give a flying crap about potential copyright theft unless you're the actual copyright holder, it seems. Unlike YouTube where any troll can claim to be Warber Bros Entertainment...
     
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    Hecaton EI Anger Translator

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    Send @HellLois and @Koni a message with the facebook group url, they can have CB report it.
     
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  18. HellLois

    HellLois What the Hell...Lois?
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    Thx. We are looking forward to this.
     
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    Armihaul Well-Known Member

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    I am pretty sure that, a web of this kind, from china to china customers will have no problem at all, their laws about copyright are different. Same from a few other countries. Oviously, to EU or USA, this is not legal
     
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