Discussion in 'Yu Jing' started by Zewrath, May 11, 2019.
Haha if only we could do that.
I don't like personal insults in general, so I'll concentrate on arguments why I think this profile is not good.
First of all, it was mentioned enough that pairing skills like Kinematica L2 and Automedkit with a mediocre PH value is kind of a drawback. You pay for the skills, but don't get many use for them in return.
The Feuerbach is an excellent weapon in itself in ARO and offensively. But it comes with a specialist profile that you don't want to risk as an ARO piece. I would choose the Zuyong Missile Launcher or ShangHi HRL for the ARO job, because they have the same BS and armor, but cost about 9 to 12 points less. On the offence, the HMG TA is too much of an internal competition with its B5, an extra order and 10 points less. Again, the PH12 to potentially revive your 48 point ARO engineer is too risky, why you always have a doctor nearby anyway for that precious Command Token reroll. The D-Charges on the Feuerbach are on the profile that does want to stay far away from the enemy zone, so feels again a bit wasted.
The combi rifle profile looks a bit more promising. The HaiDao is 11 points cheaper and does bring the D-Charges. But in return, Krit does bring WIP14, a weapon option, E-Maulers, more survivability and the most important difference, he is no HaiDao. This means you can have an engineer in your Zuyong Team and still a Killer Hacker or MSV2 Sniper. Time will tell if its worth the 11 points.
I don't consider the non linkable option for now, as I only play IA at the moment.
The most disappointing thing is that the great model basically has no purpose once a real tai Shen is released.
Sigh guys please calm down...
I really want to like the character but I've been trying to build lists with him in IA and I found there's really no way to fit him anywhere. He's simply too costly. Stays in a band of points where he has lot of competition but offers too little to be considered an option. He brings 11 points of pure bloat in his profile in things he will seldom have any use of. At least devs could trim 6 pts by just getting rid of Automedikit + Kinematica 2 + EMitter/Dcharges . That would help a bit
If you hate the female designs, permanently use krit as a male Tai Sheng I guess. Given how shit Krit is you probably don't need to be worried about anybody getting confused as he won't get used much.
nah I don't have any of these problems and I like to use the correct mini if possible. So krit "shelf boy" kokram.
That's one of the really critical things to do when being the Brand Ambassador!!!
Really expensive for the weapons.
While I really would like an LGL (ideally with Normal and Smoke or Eclipse ammo!), the EMitter isn't trash.
Agreed that the Automedikit is making the profiles cost far too much (4pts).
They're not smoking anything. They are almost certainly drinking ouzo, though. Can't say I blame them, that stuff is very tasty!
I think he is ok, gives some synergy to the fire team and is an engineer too.
Just as expected. Heavy bloated boi with 'advanced' gears to play with.
Feuerbach gives some smirk, and thats it.
P.S) Still better than Shang Ji! Good job CB!
I realy like the mini. But now I think I don´t buy him, because he will only gather dust on the shelf. If only they do the real Tai Sheng. I wonder why the do another Zuyong char.
Reasons to use him from my point of view:
A Feuerbach in the link. As someone mentioned before, nice to have, but you risk your specialist and you usualy have not much of them in your link. Compared with an Orc (42/43 Point with much better stats, but not a specialst) in a 5link it is simply the more expansive Feuerbach.
I think I can live without a FB if I can get something more useful in my Z-Link, like ... Tai? Specialst, good gunfighter, NCO for less points. So no, no FB for this price for me.
A FDed minelayer with E-Maulers. Sounds fine until you see the price tag. Okay. No mines for me, I send the Zencha to do the missions.
A engineer in a link ... ehm I already have?
As a proxy for Tai ... but this I don´t like.
If only he would be the new spec op for IA :-P
Absolutely gorgeous model with an absolutely garbage profile. Place him next to the Guijia on your shelf, they can lick each other's wounds.
Not going to lie, the hosing YJ gets these days feels a little too on the nose at times.
FFS, is there any tester working in CB for Yu Jing?
Honestly annoyed he had a combi, where you pay for the 0-8 range band and then he pays for dual heavy pistols...why??
A red fury would be awesome. Or any weapon with poor close rangebands.
I would prefer he was a doctor tbh.
Agree with most other posers here, drop Kinematika LVL2 And automedikit.
Have to admit even with my usual interest in making weird profiles work there just isn't much to work with here. More Engineers is never a bad thing as they are useful in so many ways, but the Automedikit is just so costly for its return that it kills nearly any profile it winds up on, especially in a Sectorial as points-heavy as the Invincible Army. Best use I can see is to leverage the E/Maulers, those are devastating against most opponents and refilling their limited ammo finally provides a good reason to cart a Baggage bot along in the link.
Smmr instead of a combo would have been gold
Was hoping for mines + minelayer or a LGL in an FTO profile. Oh well. It’s not like I’m forced to buy the model in any way. Too bad about the missed opportunity though.
I'm intrigued by the FD/minelayer profile.
He could be a potent specialist "skirmisher" for first turn objective rush, and while he is in direct competition with the zhencha and hulang in this role he has a few things going for him. For instance, unlike the two aforementioned units he has both mines AND a DTW, and he is a 0 SWC minelayer on top of it (something very valuable in IA).
In this role the automedikit can also potentially justify its ridiculous cost. I've not played against shaasvastii in a while but I remember that automedikit on models who operate far from your lines (like a shrouded or speculo) can be interesting since doctoring them is way too order intensive. It's kind of the same reasonning we had with the Liu Xing and why being virtually 2 wounds minus the unconscious state isn't such a big deal for him, you were never going to heal him anyway.
However, he is only FD1, and he lacks both some kind of camo/mimetism and stealth so he'll need more support to clean up AROs, and hacking can be an issue.
I actually like the profile, it opens some interesting options. Its emaulers will make take and holding areas with a zuyong link more viable. I am grateful that he is also an engineer as sometimes i struggle between the Khd and engineer haidao in a link, ill have to recalculate the points but i think a heavy drone list around a zuyong fireteam is now more viable.
When its released ill test a few ideas i had when i saw the profile and upload the experience on the tactica.
I know I'm the new guy around here but from what I have seen in the past 9 months with Yu Jing and all the comments did you people really think this was going to be a good unit????
Based on the current "climate" on the forums after uprising (which I joined Infinity afterwards) I have zero expectations of Yu Jing becoming competitive.