Is CB trolling?

Tema en 'Yu Jing' iniciado por Zewrath, 11 May 2019.

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  1. gorin

    gorin Well-Known Member

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    teampro quote:
    Moreover, TeamPro allows the use of Fireteam: Duo in Generic Armies.

    Fireteam: Duo quote:
    Both members of the Fireteam: Duo must belong to the same unit, or those combinations of units indicated on their Sectorial Army List.
     
  2. ijw

    ijw Ian Wood aka the Wargaming Trader. Rules & Wiki
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    As Mahtamori pointed out, there is no such thing as a Sectorial Army List for vanilla Yu Jing.
     
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  3. chaos11

    chaos11 Well-Known Member

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    Yes, but Vanilla doesn't have a Sectorial Army list.
     
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  4. gorin

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    So, how i must use Fireteam duo if there is no fireteams in vanilla?
     
  5. ijw

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  6. gorin

    gorin Well-Known Member

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    When ABH with duo wasnt in iss fireteam list - this duo was unlegit, because no such skill as fireteam. And ONLY fireteams from list is legit.

    But when we talk about vanilla and teampro, i think we must go deeper? I need a break
     
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  7. Henshini

    Henshini Well-Known Member

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    Buffing/fixing automedikit is an interesting angle. I wonder if CB would ever consider it.
     
  8. Mahtamori

    Mahtamori Well-Known Member

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    Heh. @HellLois I think you guys accidentally left the Special Fireteam note show in vanilla Yu Jing for Krit and it's causing some confusion

    Krit Oops.JPG
     
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  9. Miraclebutt

    Miraclebutt Well-Known Member

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    Y'know what? I'm into it.

    Big G and Little S
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    [​IMG]9 [​IMG]1
    GŪIJIĂ MULTI HMG, Heavy Flamethrower / AP CCW. (2 | 88)
    [​IMG] GŪIJIĂ PILOT Light Flamethrower / Pistol, Knife. ()
    SHÀNG JÍ (Fireteam: Haris, Tactical Awareness) Combi Rifle + Light Flamethrower + TinBot B (Deflector L2) / Pistol, Shock CCW. (0.5 | 43)
    ZÚYŎNG (Fireteam: Haris, Tactical Awareness) Combi Rifle + 1 TinBot B (Deflector L2) / 2 Breaker Pistols, Knife. (0.5 | 34)
    ZÚYŎNG (Fireteam: Duo, Tactical Awareness) HMG / 2 Breaker Pistols, Knife. (1.5 | 38)
    HǍIDÀO Hacker (Killer Hacking Device) Boarding Shotgun / Breaker Pistol, Knife. (0 | 26)
    PANGGULING FTO (Repeater) Light Shotgun / Electric Pulse. (0 | 13)
    SON-BAE Yaókòng Smart Missile Launcher / Electric Pulse. (1.5 | 18)
    Zhanshi YĪSHĒNG Combi Rifle / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 15)
    DĀOYĪNG Lieutenant L2 Boarding Shotgun / Breaker Pistol, Knife. (0 | 21)
    WARCOR (360º Visor) Flash Pulse / Stun Pistol, Knife. (0 | 3)

    6 SWC | 299 Points

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    You could take an Engineer or just two flash bots depending on your priorities. It's silly, but I like it. I might run this sometime.
     
  10. Mahtamori

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    That's where IJW and I don't see eye to eye. In my reading, the Duo skill itself allowed the ISS ABH to bypass the Sectorial Army List and form a Duo even if they weren't listed back then.

    Keep in mind, with TeamPro you don't need to go any deeper. TeamPro allows you to form Duos without being a Sectorial and Duo skill allows two TA HMG Zuyong to form a Duo because they are the same unit and the Duo contains a model with Duo skill.

    It doesn't go deeper, it goes shallower. You don't need to refer to a list of allowed fireteams. It's a bit more simple and a little bit stupider, which is good.
     
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  11. Benkei

    Benkei Well-Known Member

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    Lately I feel like trying to play Infinity is like getting an engineering degree. Not sure if it's worth the effort and headache.
     
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  12. csjarrat

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    Yeah we'd really benefit from n4 next year at the latest
     
  13. Section9

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    That is a very interesting idea.

    I'm not sure it would fix what is wrong with Krit, but it is very interesting.


    I feel really conflicted, because I was asking for HI engineers for IA way back in the day.

    I think trading the Automedikit for EM Immunity (combat engineers have better shielding for when they're using EM weapons to clear monomines) would fix a lot of Krit's issues. Would probably save 3 points, too. And that would definitely make Krit worth taking compared to a Haidao Engineer in the Zuyong Pain Train.
     
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  14. HellLois

    HellLois What the Hell...Lois?
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    Thanks for the advise. But dont forget the Teampro (supportware) hacker evo program that allows the use of Fireteam:Duo in Generic Armies.
     
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    Yup. They need to revise and simplify the rules.
     
  16. Mahtamori

    Mahtamori Well-Known Member

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    Oh! So he's actually meant to be able to Duo Guijia with use of TeamPro in vanilla?
    That's a first!
     
  17. Janzerker

    Janzerker Well-Known Member

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    So Krit in generic can make duo, using teampro supportware, with any Zuyong profile and with the Guijia.
    Kinda makes sense but… it makes look odd the fact Tai Sheng doesn't count as a Zuyong in generic. Henceforth the initial confusion.
     
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  18. Sedral

    Sedral Jīnshān Task Force Officier

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    It's still awfully expensive, even for vanilla, but the duo is MUCH better supported there than in IA:

    Yu Jing
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    GROUP 1[​IMG] [​IMG] [​IMG]9 [​IMG]1 [​IMG]2
    GŪIJIĂ MULTI HMG, Heavy Flamethrower / AP CCW. (2 | 88)
    [​IMG] GŪIJIĂ PILOT Light Flamethrower / Pistol, Knife. ()
    KOKRAM FTO (Fireteam: Duo) Combi Rifle + E/Mitter, Chain-colt, E/Mauler / 2 Heavy Pistols, Knife. (0 | 39)
    GŬILÁNG (Minelayer) Combi Rifle, Antipersonnel Mines / Pistol, Knife. (0.5 | 26)
    GŬILÁNG (Forward Observer, Deployable Repeater) Combi Rifle, Antipersonnel Mines / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 27)
    RUI SHI Spitfire / Electric Pulse. (1 | 20)
    ZHANSHI Combi Rifle / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 11)
    LIBERTO (Minelayer) Light Shotgun, Chain-colt, Antipersonnel Mines / Pistol, Knife. (1 | 10)
    CELESTIAL GUARD (Kuang Shi Control Device) Combi Rifle + Light Smoke Grenade Launcher / Pistol, Knife. (0.5 | 13)
    KUANG SHI Chain Rifle / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 5)
    KUANG SHI Chain Rifle / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 5)

    GROUP 2[​IMG] [​IMG] [​IMG]2 [​IMG]4 [​IMG]4
    ZHANSHI Lieutenant Combi Rifle / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 11)
    PANGGULING Hacker (EVO Hacking Device) Electric Pulse. (0.5 | 25)
    SHAOLIN Chain Rifle, Smoke Grenades / Pistol, Shock CCW. (0 | 5)
    SHAOLIN Chain Rifle, Smoke Grenades / Pistol, Shock CCW. (0 | 5)
    SHAOLIN Chain Rifle, Smoke Grenades / Pistol, Shock CCW. (0 | 5)
    SHAOLIN Chain Rifle, Smoke Grenades / Pistol, Shock CCW. (0 | 5)

    5.5 SWC | 300 Points

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    edit: forgot we needed teampro for the duo in vanilla.
     
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  19. Azuset

    Azuset Well-Known Member

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    I believe there is now enough data to answer the orginal question. "Is CB trolling?"

    The answer is Yes.

    I think they paired these two profiles up to try and make sales. Sure the duo is a little interesting from a game play stand point. These profiles are not good but the models are great if not amazing.

    So yeah get trolled on the table and open those wallets beacuse we know you will buy awesome sculpts.
     
    #399 Azuset, 12 Jun 2019
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  20. Miraclebutt

    Miraclebutt Well-Known Member

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    I think it's ok to like and buy good sculpts on their own merits. I won't be using Krit, but I'll buy his model like I did the Guijia (both versions, in fact). I'll paint him up and he can form a Fireteam: Duo with the Guijia on my display shelf.
     
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