What's the current speculation on the Explosive Combat Jump? Will it likely be a -3 to dodge a small blast template for say a Str 13-15 N/Shock hit?
You mean the faction widely regarded to have some of the best specialists in the entire game? Also, I'm not sure I can understand the perspective of someone who's claiming that the Zencha is "better" Daysus when in fact, every single profile of the Daysus beats the Zencha by a mile. Are you unaware of how -6 MODs and Hidden Deployment works or something? I'm genuinely wondering if you're trolling me.
I like the NWI/Bioimmunity approach on the AD:CJ and Skirmisher (Not BI). Most of the time, there is no Doc or Medic in range, you deny CdG and you get Courage on top (good for the zhencha/LiuXing in supressive fire). At the moment, we got only this Skirmisher Profiles, if the rest has his regular wounds, im happy. On the other Hand 2x Chaiyi and 2xPangulling and 4 Zanshi Core+ ShangJi Wildcard seems to be enought fuel for non LI lists and im fired up for the Hulang Shocktrooper, sounds like a badass doorkicker....aaaaand Zuyong Character!
Lets just deploy some pseudo 2W guy along with our Daofei.. with moar Guilang. IMO thats the reason why Zhencha got high cost value for its spec.
Sorry but no. It will be a lesser explosion compared to kuangshi's Most likely like this Without shock, because aleph or ariadna will cry rivers of bitterness and probably not even damage 13
No need to be sorry mate - I'm an Ariadna player so that news makes me breathe a sigh of relief. I'll sleep well tonight.
We dont know what explode LX does and how it works, it could be a one time thing (if he arrives, don't has to be CJ, could also be Airborne Infiltration or regular placement) or multiple times during the game or give a bonus to AD:CJ. Nonetheless it could be perfekt to kill ord disover Camo- or Impersonation Marker and the MR SO /D-Charges is a good workhorse and also good for AC2's. But i agree, it also could be absolute useless,... PH12 is meh, hoped for 13 but we will see. I will wait for my final judgement after i see all profiles
I find laughing to see that the only ones that didn't complain that much about new stuff were Nomads and Ariadna.
I fully expect it to be simply Explode L1 centred on where the Liu Xing Combat Jump lands. It's simple and easy, not all that powerful, and will force you to take a gamble. Wouldn't be enough to convince me of the Liu Xing being favourable compared to a Tiger (whom I already don't like due to bad order efficiency), but it could be a tool that forces opponent into poor decisions. However, if they produce a cloud of smoke, that'd be evil. Chances of that coming to pass... I'd give it less than 5%
As for the 1W+NWI HIs, I think it is for optimisation on the costing side. This costs less than 2 plain wounds if I remember well.
Hmmm...so I am not alone in being a bit torn with these 2 profiles.....they seem very....odd....to me. The Liu Xing seems like a tougher but easier to hit Tiger Soldier with less WIP, which means he won't be used for Objectives much unless you absolutely have to....and his Explosive Landing means people will most likely use him for assassination or suicide runs.....I....really don't know if I like him, he'll either be glorious, or an overprized tiger......I think in Vanilla I'd actually rather use the Tiger Soldier instead. And the Zencha? Even stranger! If he had Bioimmunity I'd call it a cheaper Daofei with less good weapon options and would most likely LOVE it, but without it, he's very likely to be killed by shock/viral as he's in nice rangebands for most weapons that have it in the midfield, and his specialist options seem actually worse than the Guilang....he's just so...strange....again, I think in Vanilla I'd rather use the more optimised Daofei or Guilang, depending on what I need.....but then again, mabye this "neither here nor there" approach of a unit will proof versatile enough to actually be very good.... I'll definitely have to give these units a thorough try before I can make up my mind about them, and I REALLY hope the other units aren't "fake" HI like these ones....kinda pisses me off...I want 2W 4+ Armour HI, REAL Hi, not this pathetic excuses of HI.... Also can I say? I'm annoyed as hell that Aleph got 2 STR Remotes, a concept which I REALLY hoped Invincible Army would get, but Invincible Army apparently did NOT get that? WHYYY??? This would have been such a fitting army to have heavier armoured support remotes and the likes... I'm not a fan of the BIG HI Guys like Daiyokai and such, so I'm not much interested in our new version of it, it just looks....uncool to me, so there's little else other units to keep my hope up for! Don't disappoint me CB! I want my Yu Jing to be awesome again after you stole my cool japanese stuff! Oh well....gotta wait until November I guess...
Could be some crazy heavy armored HI with MK12+Heavy Shotgun, Smoke Grenades and Full Auto L1,... or generic HI with CombiRifle+lsg and Stungrenades ... who knows...
Yeah, no hints at all so far, but the number game on profiles did hint to me that one unit was missing. If it wasn't for the Zhencha being below the Guijia there might've been something to read into it "new Remote!?!?" but it seems HI and TAG were mostly just grouped together with little internal order. That's what's a bit annoying. The price difference isn't that big and the Hackable trait itself doesn't seem to give much in the way of discount, either. If it had been noticeable similar to Frenzy on both, that'd been a different story.
Except that's not really the case... Compare Zuyong and the AD troop. They are identical... But the AD cost 6 points more for the boarding shotgun but only gains ADX. If he would have had 2 wound then he would better than Bioimmunity + V:NWI in every conceivable way as plain 2W AND you wouldn't die from a single failed T2 and you would retain the ability to go regular Unconscious . In fact, it seems the new AD troop is actually severely overcosted, unless the AD explosion is meta defining good...
Ouch, that is... disapointing. Let's not compare the Liu Xing to the tiger or the zuyong. I can't see myself playing any of these 2 models in vanilla. And I fear a full-HI list won't have 10 models with these costs...
AD costs about 6-8pts so that seems legit. Like seriously what's your point here, this troops with AD costs about the cost of AD more than this almost identical troop without it? Er... Yes?
