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Invincible Army post mortem

Discussion in 'Yu Jing' started by Triumph, Oct 16, 2018.

  1. Triumph

    Triumph Well-Known Member

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    I was referring to counting the new profiles for IA we've just seen, do they appear to have an unspecified discount by your mark or do they add up to the current status quo?
     
  2. Death

    Death Well-Known Member

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    Pano traded the "can't get nice things" attitude to Yu Jing and upgraded to jubliation.

    In all seriousness the stark contrast between the reaction of Yu Jing fans and Pano fans to the 3rd offensive sneak peaks is quite striking.

    To be fair, I think the Zencha can work just fine since Naga work even with all the AP mines out there. The Shooting Star is much more questionable because its quite expensive for what it does.
     
  3. Triumph

    Triumph Well-Known Member

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    I know, I was referring to the Shooting Star who's paying points for CC15 and plain CCWs for some mind boggling stupid reason.
     
  4. Benkei

    Benkei Well-Known Member

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    Hospitallers point reduction comes down to the need of selling the new MO box. No more, no less.

    Also, it just shows the magical infallible formula CB likes to brag about either doesn't exist or they just ignore it when they feel like it
     
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  5. Mahtamori

    Mahtamori Well-Known Member

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    I don't know enough of the formulas to track down variations that small in profiles that are new. All I can say is that the Zhencha matches up in math sufficiently, and I suspect that the Zhencha is paying the Heavy Infantry price for Camo + Infiltration (which is the same as LI pay for TO Camo + Infiltration) - however, that is still within the margins for error that I can't be sure.
     
  6. ambisinister

    ambisinister Broken Zoetrope

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    My mistake. Yeah, I've got nothing for the Shooting Star.

    Edited to remove snarky comment about explosion and stealth. Trying to set a good example of maintaining positivity.
     
  7. Triumph

    Triumph Well-Known Member

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    A stealthy explosion.... so like.... a fart? Well he's a kinda shitty profile so I'm calling him the Shooting Fart from now on.
     
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    ambisinister Broken Zoetrope

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    Yeah, that's not really helping their image, is it?
     
  9. Triumph

    Triumph Well-Known Member

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    Well I can safely say I've never been here to help, just to call it how it is. Goddamn Shooting Farts.
     
  10. Benkei

    Benkei Well-Known Member

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    Also, all of MO's HI are actually, you know, HI, not MI with HI's disadvantages
     
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  11. Benkei

    Benkei Well-Known Member

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    Gee, wonder why that is. I'm seriously considering getting the MO box and Varuna starter because PanO looks much more fun than YJ atm... also, sweet TAGs to choose from even if they are not really a good option.


    Naga are not hackable, and they have more options than Zencha.
     
  12. Mahtamori

    Mahtamori Well-Known Member

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    I don't think it's worth comparing to MO. If you find the new MO interesting, by all means do play them, but on average MO HI are still going to be fairly expensive and they are all going to be slightly worse than Domaru or Tanko in terms of Martial Arts.

    If anything, JSA is a more HI sectorial than MO, IMO...
     
  13. Benkei

    Benkei Well-Known Member

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    I'm still waiting to see the whole picture, but the timing and the info on the preview videos was awfully managed, to be honest.
     
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  14. Space Ranger

    Space Ranger Well-Known Member

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    I should edit it to 8 Heavy, 2 pseudo heavy (but not really), 1 character heavy but-we-are-not-sure-yet , they-still-have-time-to-F-it-up.
     
  15. Henshini

    Henshini Well-Known Member

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    If new units are not worth taking in vanilla but it's the "best" the sectorial gets than yeah, we're going to be disapointed. I would have been happoer if guilang and tigers were in the list instead of these new guys. After this, the fact that MO gets some polish when ISS doesn't(which incidentally also has its fair share of units-I-wouldn't-take-in-vanilla-but-are-good-enough-in-the-sectorial-itis) I really don't understand CB's grand plan here. After uprising this should be the YuJing rising/strikes back book.
     
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  16. Benkei

    Benkei Well-Known Member

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    To be fair, ISS doesn't need the help and MO did.

    But by the looks of it, now PanO has 3 good sectorials to our 1, and I'm happy for them
     
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  17. Mahtamori

    Mahtamori Well-Known Member

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    In my opinion, ISS needs help for entirely different reasons. For lack of better way of expressing it, but ISS needs to lose fat - if it could lose something like 3 or 4 units (such as the far too many mercs) and get some attention to the in-house stuff that's largely in disuse (i.e. the light infantry agents)
     
  18. Alphz

    Alphz Kuang Shi Vet. Retired.

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    Well didn't take long for this thread to become an echo chamber dumpster fire.
     
  19. Space Ranger

    Space Ranger Well-Known Member

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    Considering I can't afford to get right into IA, I have to do vanilla to build up to doing IA. So as of now the Zhencha is a no go at all for me when I have Daofei and Guilang. The Liu Xing is also not interesting compared to Tiger as of now either.
     
  20. Shiwen

    Shiwen Commissar, Yu Jing Political Work Department

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    I worry that you're right, but we've only gotten to see NEW Invincible profiles right now. Maybe there's an ongoing adjustment to the calculus, and existing units like the Zuyong are also a point cheaper? I guess we'll find out soon enough.
     
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