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Initial look on the current O-12 Units

Discussion in 'O-12' started by Wyrmnax, Jul 23, 2019.

  1. ChoTimberwolf

    ChoTimberwolf Artichoken Friend

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    So o-12 really don't have to worry to much about shooting enemy into retreat
     
  2. Palomides

    Palomides Well-Known Member

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    The Varangian Guard look excellent, especially for my Byzantine themed 0-12. Can't wait to see what that box looks like.
     
  3. SmaggTheSmug

    SmaggTheSmug Well-Known Member

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    Aside from the hacker the Kappa are devalued greatly by Varangians. Kind of like Alguaciles in vanilla Nomads, the Jaguars are just better. And both may have the hacker replaced by HD+ guy as well.
     
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  4. -Ghost-

    -Ghost- Shalashaska

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    I gotta say, that's the best unit in the whole force.
     
  5. Skyhusky

    Skyhusky Well-Known Member

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    Anyyyooonneee gonna mention the lynx unit with plasma carbine and spec operative?
     
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  6. -Ghost-

    -Ghost- Shalashaska

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    I wanna like the Lynx, but it has no survivability outside of HD from TO:Camo and it doesn't start further up. It's about the same price as the Razor too.
     
  7. MikeTheScrivener

    MikeTheScrivener O-12 Peace Kepper

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    Bizzare weapon combo outclassed by his other options.

    HD TO MSR is pretty solid ARO piece in vanilla. all the greatness of a Hexa but better. probably my go-to profile for him.
     
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  8. Civilized Barbarian

    Civilized Barbarian Praxis' Lead R&D Janitor

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    O-12 ──────────────────────────────────────────────────[​IMG]8 [​IMG]4
    VARANGIAN Light Shotgun, Chain Rifle, Smoke Grenades / Pistol, AP CC Weapon. (0 | 12)
    VARANGIAN Light Shotgun, Chain Rifle, Smoke Grenades / Pistol, AP CC Weapon. (0 | 12)
    VARANGIAN Submachine Gun, Chain Rifle, Smoke Grenades / Pistol, AP CC Weapon. (0 | 12)
    VARANGIAN Submachine Gun, Chain Rifle, Smoke Grenades / Pistol, AP CC Weapon. (0 | 12)
    GANGBUSTER Hacker (Killer Hacking Device) Submachine Gun, MadTrap / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 21)
    SIRIUS (Forward Observer) Boarding Shotgun, D-Charges + 1 SiriusBot / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 24) [​IMG]
    SIRIUSBOT Heavy Riotstopper / Electric Pulse. (0 | 5)
    SIRIUS (Forward Observer) Boarding Shotgun, D-Charges + 1 SiriusBot / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 24) [​IMG]
    SIRIUSBOT Heavy Riotstopper / Electric Pulse. (0 | 5)
    GANGBUSTER Hacker (Killer Hacking Device) Submachine Gun, MadTrap / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 21)
    0 SWC | 138 Points
    Open in Infinity Army

    This is an amazing base with all the cap space you need for more goodies. This faction is looking really good.
     
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  9. -Ghost-

    -Ghost- Shalashaska

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    Eh, I'll stick with the Epsilon that has a Yudbot nearby. Varangian can toss Smoke too for protection.
     
  10. Judge Dredd

    Judge Dredd Well-Known Member

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    Actually the TO plasma carbine could be potent shooting off a template under 16 with surprise shot and TO. Otherwise it has an assault pistol if burst is needed more than the blast.
     
  11. Palomides

    Palomides Well-Known Member

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    For Varangians, do we think the Chain Rifle is better than 2 Chain-Colts? Two templates seems really great for just one point.

    What are the best LT options? I feel a little squeezed here, forced to take an Alpha as either LT or CoC.
     
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  12. Death

    Death Well-Known Member

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    Thats no different then the Hex which a very popular unit in NeoTerra. It has survivability by having a -6 mod from TO camo. The sniper and killer hacker are the best options.

    The Lynx specialists is unimpressive despite having a plasma carbine. After all, its stuck in your deployment zone.

    Varangian with 2 chain rifles and smoke is too good to pass up at 13 points.

    Thats forgoing the wonderful advantage that is a HD sniper. And you can always take both.
     
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  13. xammy

    xammy Keeper of Random Facts and Strong Opinions

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    Lynx is a Hexa upgrade and I'm never going to be sad about having a TO option.
     
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  14. Ogid

    Ogid Well-Known Member

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    You can still add the 15 points HD plus the 8 points REMs for a 5 extra cheap regular orders.
    Which is funny because it was said they are suposed to be an elite (aka order starved) army...
     
  15. -Ghost-

    -Ghost- Shalashaska

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    Double Chain Colt's does sound good even if it's a smaller template. Quantity does have a quality all its own.
    That's what I was thinking. I've never liked the Hexas either though to be fair.
     
  16. Death

    Death Well-Known Member

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    On second thought, 12 points for chain rifle + light shotgun is really good as well. And with only BS 10, a light shotgun is likely better than a sub machine gun.

    Also, I missed that it was dual chain-colts. That does explain why its only 1 point more. Still, it seems worth it. Your a lot more likely to kill something with 2 templates than 1.
     
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  17. Zsolt

    Zsolt Well-Known Member

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    Did anyone say powercreep?
     
  18. Dyne

    Dyne Well-Known Member

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    Lynx is a killer hacker TO with BS 13, WIP 14, BTS3, Combi Breaker, Cybermine and Courage for 28 points.

    Hexa is a killer hacker TO with BS 12, WIP 13, BTS 0, Combi for 27.

    IMO is normal that you never liked Hexa, but Lynx is a very good and cheap unit.
     
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  19. Ogid

    Ogid Well-Known Member

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    They are good, but O-12 have specialists that can start/drop directly in the objetives.
    The TO MSR with BS13 in the other hand looks dangerous.

    It's an unpopular opinion but yes. Clearly the arms race is on...
     
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  20. Zsolt

    Zsolt Well-Known Member

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    Unpopular where? It's pretty obvious.
     
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