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Initial list ideas to test

Discussion in 'StarCo' started by ZlaKhon, Mar 22, 2018.

  1. inane.imp

    inane.imp Well-Known Member

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    Yeah... that's pretty much the list I want to build to complement the Alg Core + soloists list I posted earlier.

    I built one a while back that had a ML MB that you could use optionally in the link T1 and then reform it without for pushing.

    Hmm I'm even more disappointed in the Corregidor box now... It could have been a Corregidor / StarCo Box so easily:

    [​IMG] Starco. Free Company of the Star
    ──────────────────────────────────────────────────

    GROUP 1[​IMG] [​IMG] [​IMG]10
    [​IMG] MOBILE BRIGADA Lieutenant Boarding Shotgun / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 33)
    [​IMG] MOBILE BRIGADA Hacker (Hacking Device) Combi Rifle / Pistol, Knife. (0.5 | 43)
    [​IMG] MOBILE BRIGADA HMG / Pistol, Knife. (2 | 42)
    [​IMG] MOBILE BRIGADA Missile Launcher / Pistol, Knife. (2 | 40)
    [​IMG] DAKTARI Combi Rifle / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 14)
    [​IMG] SEÑOR MASSACRE Breaker Combi Rifle, E/M Grenades, Eclipse Grenades / Pistol, AP CCW, E/M CCW. (0 | 29)
    [​IMG] HELLCAT Hacker (Assault Hacking Device) Combi Rifle / Pistol, Knife. (0.5 | 28)
    [​IMG] HELLCAT Boarding Shotgun / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 21)
    [​IMG] JAGUAR Chain Rifle, Smoke Grenades / Pistol, DA CCW. (0 | 10)
    [​IMG] JAGUAR Light Shotgun, Smoke Grenades / Pistol, E/M CCW. (0 | 13)

    GROUP 2[​IMG] [​IMG] [​IMG]2
    [​IMG] JAGUAR Adhesive Launcher, Panzerfaust / Pistol, DA CCW. (0.5 | 13)
    [​IMG] JAGUAR Adhesive Launcher, Panzerfaust / Pistol, DA CCW. (0.5 | 13)

    6 SWC | 299 Points

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    I'd happily recommend that as a Corregidor purchase.
     
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  2. Tristan228

    Tristan228 Morlock trainer
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    I'd consider the HMG as an autoinclude in this fireteam as well as the BSG Brigada. I'm only unsure about the third member either Multi+LFT for the DTW or the TinBot guy who surprisingly comes with a 0.5 SWC tax (contrary to the Riot Grrl's TinBot profile) which is strange since this special Link seems to be meant for midfield action.
     
  3. loricus

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    That's normal for troops that actually follow the design standards.
     
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  4. Tristan228

    Tristan228 Morlock trainer
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    It's indeed within the design standards.
    If you can put a hacker in an HI Fireteam with TinBot that profile costs 0.5 SWC (exceptions: Hector, Janissaries). Hence no SWC cost for the Grrls. I'm again surprised.
     
  5. inane.imp

    inane.imp Well-Known Member

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    I'd go with BSG Deadpool. Which means that you already have a BSG. I'd tend to the Multi as a result.

    And yeah, Grrls are stupid. It's why I advocate increasing the versatility of 'standard HI' by increasing more multi purpose profiles: simple things like a 1SWC Tinbot Hacker profile for ORCs, Shan-ji and MB.
     
  6. loricus

    loricus Satellite Druid

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    I would choose eithet MULTI and BSG Senor, or BSG and Breaker Senor. I wouldn't give up a mid range gunner but you might want to save the points and have it on Massacre.

    I have a preference for BSG on Massacre because I don't want to have yet another vital role on his shoulders. I want to ensure his safety for smoke, spec fire and CC. Although you can always doctor him if you aren't risking DA or similar rounds (shock immune).
     
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  7. inane.imp

    inane.imp Well-Known Member

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    BSG + CC / Smoke also synergises well in a stopper role on a short fire lane.

    Delay then Engage vs a DTW or FTF with B2 BS21 vs a BS attack.
     
  8. Tristan228

    Tristan228 Morlock trainer
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    From my experience with the Riot Grrls I can tell the BSG on an HI is the better option mainly because of the 2nd Wound. And then there is a 5% higher chance to get crits with the BS 13 Brigada compared to Sr. Massacre. Also the Breaker Combi Rifle brings you another lever for your Fireteam to surpass insanely armoured opponents.
     
  9. inane.imp

    inane.imp Well-Known Member

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    See I'd say that a DTW on a HI is a better option because of the higher ARM and second wound means a higher likelihood of tanking a Normal roll BS Attack. And 18 vs 19 (assuming cover) is the same odds of critting.

    And I'd value the Shock for dealing with NWI/Dogged over the Breaker given Multi also gets AP for dealing with high ARM opponents (particularly since most things with ARM5+ are BTS6+ so you usually end up within 5%).

    Tl;dr there's advantages either way depending on what you / your meta favours most.
     
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  10. Tristan228

    Tristan228 Morlock trainer
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    Hence my thought to scrap the TinBot Brigada for a Multi+LFT one. No hacking deterrent though. But you'll have ammunition for every occassion :)
     
  11. Andre82

    Andre82 Well-Known Member

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    So to hijack this abit.
    I have a small game coming up tomorrow and I was wondering what you thought of this list.
    I have not made the second list yet however.
    So the missions are
    Frontline
    Safe Area
    Deadly Dance
    Acquisition
    And SOLDIERS OF FORTUNE is in effect so I expect lots of PanO

    I have this list
    [​IMG] Starco. Free Company of the Star
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    GROUP 1[​IMG] [​IMG] [​IMG]6 [​IMG]2 [​IMG]1
    [​IMG] BRAWLER Lieutenant Rifle + Light Shotgun / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 16)
    [​IMG] BRAWLER (Fireteam: Haris) Rifle + Light Shotgun / Pistol, Knife. (0.5 | 17)
    [​IMG] BRAWLER (Multispectral Visor L2) MULTI Sniper / Pistol, Knife. (1.5 | 28)
    [​IMG] CSU (Specialist Operative) Rifle + Light Shotgun, Nanopulser / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 12)
    [​IMG] UHAHU Hacker (Hacking Device Plus. UPGRADE: Icebreaker) Pitcher, D-Charges / Assault Pistol, Knife. (0.5 | 25)
    [​IMG] SALYUT (Minesweeper, Repeater) Electric Pulse. (0 | 8)
    [​IMG] IRMANDINHO Chain Rifle, D-Charges, Smoke Grenades / Pistol, AP CCW. (0 | 8)
    [​IMG] WARCOR (Aerocam) Flash Pulse / Stun Pistol, Knife. (0 | 3)
    GROUP 2[​IMG] [​IMG] [​IMG]9 [​IMG]1
    [​IMG] SPECTOR (AD: Combat Jump) Boarding Shotgun, Nanopulser, Drop Bears / Pistol, E/M2 CC Weapon. (0 | 33)
    [​IMG] EMILY (Chain of Command) Combi Rifle + Light Grenade Launcher (Normal and E/M), Nanopulser / Assault Pistol, Knife. (0.5 | 35)
    [​IMG] ALGUACIL HMG / Pistol, Knife. (1 | 18)
    [​IMG] ALGUACIL Combi Rifle / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 10)
    [​IMG] ALGUACIL Combi Rifle / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 10)
    [​IMG] ALGUACIL Combi Rifle / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 10)
    [​IMG] JAGUAR Chain Rifle, Smoke Grenades / Pistol, DA CCW. (0 | 10)
    [​IMG] TSYKLON Spitfire, Pitcher / Electric Pulse. (1 | 31)
    [​IMG] TRANSDUCTOR ZOND Flash Pulse, Sniffer / Electric Pulse. (0 | 8)
    [​IMG] STEMPLER ZOND Combi Rifle, Sniffer / Electric Pulse. (0 | 17)
    5 SWC | 299 Points
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    Do you think this list outclasses the Starco list?

    [​IMG] ALEPH
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    GROUP 1[​IMG] [​IMG] [​IMG]10
    [​IMG] DAKINI Tacbot HMG / Electric Pulse. (1 | 21)
    [​IMG] DALETH Rebot Combi Rifle, Sniffer / Electric Pulse. (0 | 17)
    [​IMG] LAMEDH Rebot Flash Pulse, Sniffer / Electric Pulse. (0 | 8)
    [​IMG] LAMEDH Rebot Flash Pulse, Sniffer / Electric Pulse. (0 | 8)
    [​IMG] NETROD . (0 | 4)
    [​IMG] NETROD . (0 | 4)
    [​IMG] NETROD . (0 | 4)
    [​IMG] ACHILLES Lieutenant MULTI Rifle, Nanopulser / Pistol, EXP CCW. (0 | 73)
    [​IMG] PROXY Mk.2 MULTI Sniper Rifle, Nanopulser / Pistol, Knife. (1.5 | 24)
    [​IMG] PROXY Mk.5 (Forward Observer) 2 Submachine Guns, Nanopulser, E/M Grenades / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 10)
    [​IMG] PROXY Mk.1 Hacker (Hacking Device) Combi Rifle, Nanopulser / Pistol, Knife. (0.5 | 14)
    [​IMG] EMILY (Chain of Command) Combi Rifle + Light Grenade Launcher (Normal and E/M), Nanopulser / Assault Pistol, Knife. (0.5 | 35)
    GROUP 2[​IMG] [​IMG] [​IMG]4
    [​IMG] SOPHOTECT Combi Rifle, D-Charges / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 31)
    [​IMG] YUDBOT Electric Pulse. (0 | 3)
    [​IMG] PROBOT (Minesweeper, Repeater) Electric Pulse. (0 | 8)
    [​IMG] PROBOT (Minesweeper, Repeater) Electric Pulse. (0 | 8)
    [​IMG] AGÊMA Marksman Missile Launcher / Pistol, Knife. (1.5 | 27)
    6 SWC | 299 Points
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  12. prefAct

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    Are you expecting to face said aleph list? Cause my advice would be to maybe give up one order to fit in a Lunokhod against some HI/odd/TO/PanO/Achilles in board control missions like you'll play. But the list looks good regardless i'd say.

    It's all right there in the profile really.
    - Fast midfield with koala's
    - repeater for Uhahu
    - burn odd/TO
    - around the corner peeking: Flame or Heavy shotty
    - I'd even consider the always funny Akrylat against a multi rifle achilles, but that's just me. Let him run in/shoot a pleb, go frenzy, lose cover and bam! outrange him with the gluerocket :-) What could possibly go wrong?
    + you have some good and quick engineers.

    Also - again just me wondering out loud - i know the MSV2 is tempting and [by most?] considered an auto include, but it's not. Not with two Lunokhods! I vastly prefer burning camo/etc. to trying to hit them with a snper that's gonna be a high priority target anyway. And last I heard PanO doesn't have smoke-

    The one time he get's out of Caledonia, I always seriously consider some T2 sniper Cateran action, regardless of the mission. But, a lot of panO means prolly visors, so might not be the best.

    Hope it's useful. Seeing your list i recon our playstyles don't really align. So my advice might be of limited use, i'm more of a LI player. So for the sake of variation if you're still looking for inspiration on a second list:

    [​IMG] Starco. Free Company of the Star
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    [​IMG]9 [​IMG]1
    [​IMG] MOBILE BRIGADA HMG / Pistol, Knife. (2 | 42)
    [​IMG] MOBILE BRIGADA Lieutenant MULTI Rifle + Light Flamethrower / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 39)
    [​IMG] MOBILE BRIGADA Hacker (Hacking Device) Combi Rifle / Pistol, Knife. (0.5 | 43)
    [​IMG] DAKTARI Combi Rifle / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 14)
    [​IMG] SEÑOR MASSACRE Breaker Combi Rifle, E/M Grenades, Eclipse Grenades / Pistol, AP CCW, E/M CCW. (0 | 29)
    [​IMG] RIOT GRRL Missile Launcher / Pistol, Knife. (2 | 33)
    [​IMG] RIOT GRRL (Specialist Operative) Combi Rifle, Blitzen, Stun Grenades / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 30)
    [​IMG] BRAWLER Doctor (MediKit) Rifle + Light Shotgun / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 20)
    [​IMG] ZONDBOT Electric Pulse. (0 | 3)
    [​IMG] HAWWA' (Forward Observer) Boarding Shotgun, D-Charges / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 21)
    [​IMG] CATERAN T2 Sniper Rifle / Pistol, AP CCW. (1 | 24)

    5.5 SWC | 298 Points

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    Riot datatracker ftw in acquisition. Took this list for some games of late, and a small tournament [got hammered by Neema crits all the way, but what can you do, i'm only human]. Apart from that, i find it to be something of a polyvalent little crew.
     
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  13. Torres

    Torres Active Member

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    Hello,
    I've got my first tournament (300/6, 12xp Spec Ops) incoming in couple of weeks and I would like to ask for help in second list selection.
    The missions:
    Capture and Protect
    Tic Tac Toe
    Anihillation
    Quadrant Controll
    Supplies

    My first list looks like this:

    [​IMG] Starco. Free Company of the Star
    ──────────────────────────────────────────────────

    [​IMG]9 [​IMG]1
    [​IMG] MOBILE BRIGADA Lieutenant Boarding Shotgun / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 33)
    [​IMG] EMILY (Chain of Command) Combi Rifle + Light Grenade Launcher (Normal and E/M), Nanopulser / Assault Pistol, Knife. (0.5 | 35)
    [​IMG] RIOT GRRL Missile Launcher / Pistol, Knife. (2 | 33)
    [​IMG] RIOT GRRL Missile Launcher / Pistol, Knife. (2 | 33)
    [​IMG] RIOT GRRL MULTI Rifle, Stun Grenades / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 32)
    [​IMG] RIOT GRRL Boarding Shotgun, Stun Grenades + TinBot B (Deflector L2) / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 30)
    [​IMG] SPECTOR (AD: Combat Jump) Boarding Shotgun, Nanopulser, Drop Bears / Pistol, E/M2 CC Weapon. (0 | 33)
    [​IMG] HAWWA' Hacker (Assault Hacking Device) Boarding Shotgun, D-Charges / Pistol, Knife. (0.5 | 26)
    [​IMG] REAKTION ZOND HMG / Electric Pulse. (1 | 26)
    [​IMG] Brawler Spec-Ops (12 XP) (WIP:13, BTS:6, Engineer, Doctor, Minelayer, Hacking Device) Rifle, Light Shotgun / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 16)
    [​IMG] ZONDBOT Electric Pulse. (0 | 3)

    6 SWC | 300 Points

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    After a couple of games I'm rather happy. Strong ARO presence, good units for active turn, lots of wounds, can finish any mission/classified.
    I think that the major weakness of this list is order/camo/smoke spam.
    That's why I was considering this:

    [​IMG] Starco. Free Company of the Star
    ──────────────────────────────────────────────────

    GROUP 1[​IMG] [​IMG] [​IMG]8 [​IMG]2
    [​IMG] HARDCASE FRONTIERSMAN Tactical Bow, Light Shotgun / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 12)
    [​IMG] JAGUAR Chain Rifle, Smoke Grenades / Pistol, DA CCW. (0 | 10)
    [​IMG] JAGUAR Chain Rifle, Smoke Grenades / Pistol, DA CCW. (0 | 10)
    [​IMG] JAGUAR Chain Rifle, Smoke Grenades / Pistol, DA CCW. (0 | 10)
    [​IMG] JAGUAR Chain Rifle, Smoke Grenades / Pistol, DA CCW. (0 | 10)
    [​IMG] TRANSDUCTOR ZOND Flash Pulse, Sniffer / Electric Pulse. (0 | 8)
    [​IMG] Brawler Spec-Ops (12 XP) (WIP:13, BTS:6, Engineer, Doctor, Minelayer, Hacking Device) Rifle, Light Shotgun / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 16)
    [​IMG] SPECTOR (AD: Combat Jump) Boarding Shotgun, Nanopulser, Drop Bears / Pistol, E/M2 CC Weapon. (0 | 33)
    [​IMG] STEMPLER ZOND Combi Rifle, Sniffer / Electric Pulse. (0 | 17)
    [​IMG] REAKTION ZOND HMG / Electric Pulse. (1 | 26)

    GROUP 2[​IMG] [​IMG] [​IMG]9
    [​IMG] CSU (Specialist Operative) Rifle + Light Shotgun, Nanopulser / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 12)
    [​IMG] CSU (Specialist Operative) Rifle + Light Shotgun, Nanopulser / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 12)
    [​IMG] ALGUACIL HMG / Pistol, Knife. (1 | 18)
    [​IMG] ALGUACIL Missile Launcher / Pistol, Knife. (1.5 | 15)
    [​IMG] ALGUACIL Lieutenant Combi Rifle / Pistol, Knife. (1 | 10)
    [​IMG] ALGUACIL Combi Rifle / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 10)
    [​IMG] ALGUACIL Combi Rifle / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 10)
    [​IMG] EMILY (Chain of Command) Combi Rifle + Light Grenade Launcher (Normal and E/M), Nanopulser / Assault Pistol, Knife. (0.5 | 35)
    [​IMG] HAWWA' Hacker (Assault Hacking Device) Boarding Shotgun, D-Charges / Pistol, Knife. (0.5 | 26)

    5.5 SWC | 300 Points

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    I was thinking about switching Reaktion Zond to MSV2 Sniper but with "free" hacking support it should be more flexible? I also miss some Zond Bots but I honestly don't know how could I fit at least one into the list.
    I would be more than grateful for suggestions and advice :)