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Discussion in 'StarCo' started by ZlaKhon, Mar 22, 2018.

  1. Solar

    Solar Well-Known Member

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    Took a list with dropSpector on Tuesday

    My goodness. Killed a Hac Tao HMG, Zhanshi, Celestial Guard, Kuang Shi and also pinned down a Guilang with a Drop Bear. Absolute beast.
     
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  2. ZlaKhon

    ZlaKhon New scale enthusiast

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    @SuperD : really interesting list. I like the overall concept.

    I‘d try to kick out spector though, just to see what happens. That could give you 2 additinal Jaguars, a Hardcase and possibly event a warcor. Not sure if that would be superior, but I like having some more orders
     
  3. Tristan228

    Tristan228 Morlock trainer
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    With StarCo you can easily buld Linktems which can then be used in certain roles on the battlefield. If you e.g. swp the ML MB fo the TinBot MB you have the perfect taxi for your Daktari to fulfill objectives and you don't have to leave the fifth member somewhere. Also the haris Brawler will enable you to build up a defensive link which doubles the HRL's ARO capability.

    [​IMG] Starco. Free Company of the Star
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    GROUP 1[​IMG] [​IMG] [​IMG]9 [​IMG]1 [​IMG]1
    [​IMG] DAKTARI Combi Rifle / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 14)
    [​IMG] HAWWA' Hacker (Assault Hacking Device) Boarding Shotgun, D-Charges / Pistol, Knife. (0.5 | 26)
    [​IMG] HELLCAT Boarding Shotgun / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 21)
    [​IMG] IRMANDINHO Chain Rifle, D-Charges, Smoke Grenades / Pistol, AP CCW. (0 | 8)
    [​IMG] JAGUAR Chain Rifle, Smoke Grenades / Pistol, DA CCW. (0 | 10)
    [​IMG] MOBILE BRIGADA HMG / Pistol, Knife. (2 | 42)
    [​IMG] MOBILE BRIGADA Combi Rifle + 1 TinBot B (Deflector L2) / Pistol, Knife. (0.5 | 37)
    [​IMG] MOBILE BRIGADA Lieutenant Boarding Shotgun / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 33)
    [​IMG] SEÑOR MASSACRE Breaker Combi Rifle, E/M Grenades, Eclipse Grenades / Pistol, AP CCW, E/M CCW. (0 | 29)
    [​IMG] TRANSDUCTOR ZOND Flash Pulse, Sniffer / Electric Pulse. (0 | 8)

    GROUP 2[​IMG] [​IMG] [​IMG]3 [​IMG]1
    [​IMG] BRAWLER Heavy Rocket Launcher / Assault Pistol, Knife. (1.5 | 18)
    [​IMG] BRAWLER (Fireteam: Haris) Rifle + Light Shotgun / Pistol, Knife. (0.5 | 17)
    [​IMG] CSU (Specialist Operative) Rifle + Light Shotgun, Nanopulser / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 12)
    [​IMG] CATERAN T2 Sniper Rifle / Pistol, AP CCW. (1 | 24)

    6 SWC | 299 Points

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  4. Leviathan

    Leviathan Hungry Caliban

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    I think DropSpector is the ultimate StarCo rambo. The others shine best in a fireteam, but spector likes to go in alone.
     
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  5. inane.imp

    inane.imp Well-Known Member

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    Spector, HMG Hellcat double team disagrees.
     
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  6. loricus

    loricus Satellite Druid

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    I've only seen First Blood does Rambo get a friend in the sequel?
     
  7. inane.imp

    inane.imp Well-Known Member

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    We're clearly talking different movie genres. :/
     
  8. loricus

    loricus Satellite Druid

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    I'm just saying it stops being "Rambo" when you add a second guy.
     
  9. kghamilton

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    Ran a list last night for Highly Classified
    Did really well, Raoul was a beast, immobilising the anaconda turn 1 and killed His only engineer so it couldn’t come back!



    I think I’m going against the grain by not running Emily or a core link but in three games it hasn’t been an issue. Everything works well individually and the Msv 2 sniper has been my mvp in every game so far

    Only thing I think I need is a bandit killer hacker in the mid field but so far been really enjoying it
     

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  10. inane.imp

    inane.imp Well-Known Member

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    I'm thinking about building to this in my Slow Grow league:

    [​IMG] Starco, Free Company of the Star - Lone Rangers (300/300 | 6/6)

    Group #1 | 9 Models | [​IMG] 7 [​IMG] 2 [​IMG] 0

    [​IMG] Emily Chain of Command | Chain of Command, Combi Rifle, Light Grenade Launcher, E/M Light Grenade Launcher, Nanopulser, Assault Pistol / Knife (35)
    [​IMG] Alguacil Combi | Combi Rifle, Pistol / Knife (10)
    [​IMG] Alguacil Combi | Combi Rifle, Pistol / Knife (10)
    [​IMG] Alguacil Missile Launcher | Missile Launcher, Pistol / Knife (15)
    [​IMG] Alguacil Combi | Combi Rifle, Pistol / Knife (10)
    [​IMG] Daktari Doctor | Combi Rifle, Pistol / Knife (14)
    [​IMG] Jaguar Chain Rifle | Chain Rifle, Smoke Grenades, Pistol / DA CCW (10)
    [​IMG] Bandit Killer Hacker | Killer Hacking Device, Light Shotgun, Adhesive Launcher, Pistol / DA CCW (25)
    [​IMG] Spector Combat Jump | AD: Combat Jump, Boarding Shotgun, Nanopulser, Drop Bears, Pistol / E/M2 CCW (33)

    Group #2 | 7 Models | [​IMG] 5 [​IMG] 2 [​IMG] 1

    [​IMG] Hardcase Frontiersman Tactical Bow | Light Shotgun, Pistol / Tactical Bow, Knife (12)
    [​IMG] Hellcat HMG | HMG, E/Mauler, Pistol / Knife (31)
    [​IMG] Hawwa' Hacker | Assault Hacking Device, Boarding Shotgun, Pistol, D-Charges / Knife (26)
    [​IMG] Brawler MULTI Sniper | Multispectral Visor L2, MULTI Sniper Rifle, Pistol / Knife (28)
    [​IMG] Brawler Lieutenant | Lieutenant, Rifle, Light Shotgun, Pistol / Knife (16)
    [​IMG] Brawler Haris | Fireteam: Haris, Rifle, Light Shotgun, Pistol / Knife (17)
    [​IMG] Irmandinho Chain Rifle | Smoke Grenades, Chain Rifle, D-Charges, Pistol / AP CCW (8)

    [​IMG] Open in MayaNet

    The only thing I'm not really sure about is the groups. The 5 solo pieces (Bandit, Al Hawwa, Raoul, Hellcat and Daktari) can be shifted around but I'm not sure the best way to set them up.
     
  11. ZlaKhon

    ZlaKhon New scale enthusiast

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    Not sure if I like the list too much. I‘d like to somehow get zondbots s guy to bring back the Alguaciles to 5 incase the ML bites the dust in ARO and at least a second Jaguar.

    How about dropping the Hellcat HMG for an Alguaciles HMG, Jaguar with chain and one Zondbot. That would give you a second spurce of smoke, an additional corner guard, a third way to exploit the 5 man link bonus (direct or indirect fire with Emily, ML ARO and HMG for active turn long range) and a bit more utility on the Daktari with the Zondbot. Especially the latter feels important as your Brawler Sniper might end up on tall buildings and you may want healing possibilities close to both links. Also you start with two more orders.

    I‘d also consider changing the Hawwa to FO to get SWC to take an Alguaciles as LT and replace the Brawler LT with a CSU. The gained 8 Points would get you a flash REM. Thst would make your LT a bit more hidden (even though all possible LTs and the CoC may be placed relatively close to each other), give you another linked specialist and again an additional order.

    But admittedly, a lot of this is personal taste. If you want to keep the model choice as is, I wouldn’t want to change the combat group distribution. Worst case, the open spit in group one always allows you to shift groups a bit.
     
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  12. inane.imp

    inane.imp Well-Known Member

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    Ideally this list has 2 X FO Algs and a Zondbot. But I can't quite squeeze it in. I'll think about dropping the AHD Al Hawwa for an FO (to get the Zondbot). But Al Hawwa are one of the best AHD profiles in the game and they're just so much fun.

    Largely agree on the Brawler Lt being suboptimal. Would prefer a CSU in there. But the Hellcat HMG is also hilarious fun.

    I take your point about a B5 weapon in the DZ. But honestly I'd be running a MB core if that was what I was trying to do.

    I already have 2 sources of Smoke. So I'd probably look at using any points saved to grab the profiles I'd want and a Warcor.

    I think my core problem is I'm trying to do too much and should either run Raoul or Hellcat HMG + Hellcat BSG.

    Good suggestions though. :)
     
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  13. Solar

    Solar Well-Known Member

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    I would definitely want to be giving Spector an entire pool of regular orders to use, even if you go first and lose two, he's just so incredibly damaging.
     
  14. Solar

    Solar Well-Known Member

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    Incidentally this is my current StarCo all comers list and I find it to be mostly ridiculous. Linked MSV2 and Smoke (free Smoke, from the impetuous order, plus another source too), White Noise, a Tsyklon to upgrade with MML2, free rolls on the booty and metachemistry table for a bit of fun, CoC, excellent Spec Fire capability, good infowar and great repeater options, AD troop, CC capability, lots of orders, all specialist types, deploys plenty of camo... I just can't think of anything it doesn't do outside of not having any ODD/TO Camo (which is not in StarCo) and being made up almost entirely of single-wound LI troops. But I mean, who cares, when you've got that many?

    [​IMG] Starco. Free Company of the Star
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    GROUP 1[​IMG] [​IMG] [​IMG]9 [​IMG]1
    [​IMG] EMILY (Chain of Command) Combi Rifle + Light Grenade Launcher (Normal and E/M), Nanopulser / Assault Pistol, Knife. (0.5 | 35)
    [​IMG] ALGUACIL HMG / Pistol, Knife. (1 | 18)
    [​IMG] ALGUACIL (Forward Observer, Deployable Repeater) Combi Rifle / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 12)
    [​IMG] ALGUACIL Combi Rifle / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 10)
    [​IMG] ALGUACIL Lieutenant Combi Rifle / Pistol, Knife. (1 | 10)
    [​IMG] BRAWLER (Multispectral Visor L2) MULTI Sniper / Pistol, Knife. (1.5 | 28)
    [​IMG] BRAWLER (Fireteam: Haris) Rifle + Light Shotgun / Pistol, Knife. (0.5 | 17)
    [​IMG] CSU (Specialist Operative) Rifle + Light Shotgun, Nanopulser / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 12)
    [​IMG] SPECTOR (AD: Combat Jump) Boarding Shotgun, Nanopulser, Drop Bears / Pistol, E/M2 CC Weapon. (0 | 33)
    [​IMG] TSYKLON Spitfire, Pitcher / Electric Pulse. (1 | 31)

    GROUP 2[​IMG] [​IMG] [​IMG]3 [​IMG]3 [​IMG]1
    [​IMG] UHAHU Hacker (Hacking Device Plus. UPGRADE: Icebreaker) Pitcher, D-Charges / Assault Pistol, Knife. (0.5 | 25)
    [​IMG] DAKTARI Combi Rifle / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 14)
    [​IMG] JAGUAR Chain Rifle, Smoke Grenades / Pistol, DA CCW. (0 | 10)
    [​IMG] BANDIT Hacker (Killer Hacking Device) Light Shotgun, Adhesive Launcher / Pistol, DA CCW. (0 | 25)
    [​IMG] HARDCASE FRONTIERSMAN Tactical Bow, Light Shotgun / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 12)
    [​IMG] IRMANDINHO Chain Rifle, D-Charges, Smoke Grenades / Pistol, AP CCW. (0 | 8)

    6 SWC | 300 Points

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  15. inane.imp

    inane.imp Well-Known Member

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    Except you're not (giving Spektor an entire Order pool).

    Both Spektor and your door-opening gun are in the same order pool. So any order you spend on the MSR you take away from Spektor.

    I think it's a 'needs testing' problem. Work out what order split works for me.

    Edit: I’m not saying you’re wrong. Just that for me to really get Spektor to do his thing I’ll need to remove some AROs.
     
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  16. Tristan228

    Tristan228 Morlock trainer
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    Just a little question: if you play the MB + Daktari + Sr.Massacre which are your most used Mobile Brigada profiles?
     
  17. inane.imp

    inane.imp Well-Known Member

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    HMG+Tinbot+Lt(either, but not necessarily).

    I think you can also run the ML and reform the link without it on your active.

    If I want a mainly defensive link then I'd go Grrls.
     
  18. Leviathan

    Leviathan Hungry Caliban

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    I ran this for the first few rounds of my local SlowGrow (i know its not optimal, my choices were based on models I had and wanted to paint).

    [​IMG] Starco. Free Company of the Star
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    [​IMG]6 [​IMG]2
    [​IMG] BRAWLER Lieutenant Rifle + Light Shotgun / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 16)
    [​IMG] BRAWLER Heavy Rocket Launcher / Assault Pistol, Knife. (1.5 | 18)
    [​IMG] BRAWLER (Fireteam: Haris) Rifle + Light Shotgun / Pistol, Knife. (0.5 | 17)
    [​IMG] CSU (Specialist Operative) Rifle + Light Shotgun, Nanopulser / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 12)
    [​IMG] CSU (Specialist Operative) Rifle + Light Shotgun, Nanopulser / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 12)
    [​IMG] LUNOKHOD Heavy Shotgun, Heavy Flamethrower, D-Charges, CrazyKoalas (2) / Electric Pulse. (0 | 25)
    [​IMG] BANDIT Hacker (Killer Hacking Device) Light Shotgun, Adhesive Launcher / Pistol, DA CCW. (0 | 25)
    [​IMG] BANDIT Hacker (Killer Hacking Device) Light Shotgun, Adhesive Launcher / Pistol, DA CCW. (0 | 25)

    2 SWC | 150 Points
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    Mostly it did okay - the brawler squad was a good counter against enemy fireteams, the CSU duo could generally get a fun metachem roll between them and the bandits were an everpresent danger (tho they sure died a lot). Struggled hard against enemies with rambo units or snipers though - they'd just take out the brawler HRL and then go to town on me (usually until running into a crazy koala or heavy shotgun to the face).


    Changing it to this when we bump up to 200pts.

    [​IMG] Starco. Free Company of the Star
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    [​IMG]8 [​IMG]2
    [​IMG] BRAWLER Lieutenant Rifle + Light Shotgun / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 16)
    [​IMG] CSU (Specialist Operative) Rifle + Light Shotgun, Nanopulser / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 12)
    [​IMG] BRAWLER Heavy Rocket Launcher / Assault Pistol, Knife. (1.5 | 18)
    [​IMG] CSU (Specialist Operative) Rifle + Light Shotgun, Nanopulser / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 12)
    [​IMG] BRAWLER Hacker (Assault Hacking Device) Submachine Gun / Pistol, Knife. (0.5 | 17)
    [​IMG] BANDIT Boarding Shotgun, E/Mauler / Pistol, DA CCW. (0 | 26)
    [​IMG] BANDIT Boarding Shotgun, E/Mauler / Pistol, DA CCW. (0 | 26)
    [​IMG] UHAHU Hacker (Hacking Device Plus. UPGRADE: Icebreaker) Pitcher, D-Charges / Assault Pistol, Knife. (0.5 | 25)
    [​IMG] LUNOKHOD Heavy Shotgun, Akrylat-Kanone, D-Charges, CrazyKoalas (2) / Electric Pulse. (0 | 24)
    [​IMG] LUNOKHOD Heavy Shotgun, Akrylat-Kanone, D-Charges, CrazyKoalas (2) / Electric Pulse. (0 | 24)

    2.5 SWC | 200 Points
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    Gets me to 10 orders, gives the bandits a little more area denial (and surprise shot punch), and makes the brawlers a lot less static by moving them with the CSUs.
     
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  19. Andre82

    Andre82 Well-Known Member

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    I made a list much like this with some changes like brawlers in the second group.
    Offensively it looks amazing but I fear the lack of aro coverage.
    I really want to get a missile in there but I can't find the swc.
     
  20. loricus

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    There's no advantage not to if that's what you want. The reason to take Brigada is for the pushing power of the HMG, DTW, and Eclipse grenades.
     
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