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Initial list ideas to test

Discussion in 'StarCo' started by ZlaKhon, Mar 22, 2018.

  1. ZlaKhon

    ZlaKhon New scale enthusiast

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    Hey guys,

    I'll have the chance to play one or two games with StarCo this weekend.
    Missions will be Supremacy and Supplies, but I want to test all-comers lists rather than tailoring something to these missions.
    I have access to all models aside from Anacondas (which I wouldn't pick in any case..).
    Do you have any suggestions on what kind of lists to try first?

    My current thoughts are to see how the MB core link could work out:

    [​IMG] MB Pain Train
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    GROUP 1[​IMG] [​IMG] [​IMG]9 [​IMG]1 [​IMG]1
    [​IMG] MOBILE BRIGADA HMG / Pistol, Knife. (2 | 42)
    [​IMG] MOBILE BRIGADA Hacker (Hacking Device) Combi Rifle / Pistol, Knife. (0.5 | 43)
    [​IMG] MOBILE BRIGADA Combi Rifle + 1 TinBot B (Deflector L2) / Pistol, Knife. (0.5 | 37)
    [​IMG] SEÑOR MASSACRE Boarding Shotgun, E/M Grenades, Eclipse Grenades / Pistol, AP CCW, E/M CCW. (0 | 26)
    [​IMG] DAKTARI Combi Rifle / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 14)
    [​IMG] HAWWA' (Forward Observer) Boarding Shotgun, D-Charges / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 21)
    [​IMG] BRAWLER Lieutenant Rifle + Light Shotgun / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 16)
    [​IMG] BRAWLER (Fireteam: Haris) Rifle + Light Shotgun / Pistol, Knife. (0.5 | 17)
    [​IMG] BRAWLER (Multispectral Visor L2) MULTI Sniper / Pistol, Knife. (1.5 | 28)
    [​IMG] IRMANDINHO Chain Rifle, D-Charges, Smoke Grenades / Pistol, AP CCW. (0 | 8)
    [​IMG] ZONDBOT Electric Pulse. (0 | 3)

    GROUP 2[​IMG] [​IMG] [​IMG]3
    [​IMG] JAGUAR Chain Rifle, Smoke Grenades / Pistol, DA CCW. (0 | 10)
    [​IMG] JAGUAR Chain Rifle, Smoke Grenades / Pistol, DA CCW. (0 | 10)
    [​IMG] UHAHU Hacker (Hacking Device Plus. UPGRADE: Icebreaker) Pitcher, D-Charges / Assault Pistol, Knife. (0.5 | 25)

    5.5 SWC | 300 Points

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    The game plan is pretty straight forward:

    Group 1 has a pain train to advance into the midfield and take out enemy AROs as well as infiltrators. They have their own smoke and fairy dust, but they can also get that from Group 2 without having to spend their own orders.
    On a good day the pain train can probably accomplish the mission on its own.
    In case some support is needed the Al'Hawwa and Irmandinho (with Zondbot for fun and CC) can do their share of objectives and close range killing.
    The Harris of Brawlers is there mainly to supply the MSV2 Sniper, which can be used as an active turn killer to take out ARO pieces, which are at an unfavorable range for the Pain Train, and to secure the obvious LT.
    I really like that Uahu is in the list. She supplies White Noise so that the brigadas can take out MSV units even more easily, provides good repeater coverage, which is especially nice since we have the MB hacker with SS2 in the link and makes for a good back up specialist thanks to Cybermask.

    What do you guys think?

    My second approach would be to work with the Alguaciles Core and make use of Emely's superior BS and X-Visor to get a lot of mileage out of the Grenade Launcher:

    [​IMG] Order is King
    ──────────────────────────────────────────────────

    GROUP 1[​IMG] [​IMG] [​IMG]8 [​IMG]2 [​IMG]1
    [​IMG] ALGUACIL Combi Rifle / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 10)
    [​IMG] ALGUACIL Combi Rifle / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 10)
    [​IMG] ALGUACIL Combi Rifle / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 10)
    [​IMG] ALGUACIL Hacker (Hacking Device) Combi Rifle / Pistol, Knife. (0.5 | 18)
    [​IMG] ALGUACIL HMG / Pistol, Knife. (1 | 18)
    [​IMG] EMILY (Chain of Command) Combi Rifle + Light Grenade Launcher (Normal and E/M), Nanopulser / Assault Pistol, Knife. (0.5 | 35)
    [​IMG] TSYKLON Spitfire, Pitcher / Electric Pulse. (1 | 31)
    [​IMG] HAWWA' (Forward Observer) Boarding Shotgun, D-Charges / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 21)
    [​IMG] BANDIT Hacker (Killer Hacking Device) Light Shotgun, Adhesive Launcher / Pistol, DA CCW. (0 | 25)
    [​IMG] IRMANDINHO Chain Rifle, D-Charges, Smoke Grenades / Pistol, AP CCW. (0 | 8)

    GROUP 2[​IMG] [​IMG] [​IMG]6 [​IMG]1
    [​IMG] CATERAN Sniper Rifle / Pistol, AP CCW. (0.5 | 21)
    [​IMG] BRAWLER (Fireteam: Haris) Rifle + Light Shotgun / Pistol, Knife. (0.5 | 17)
    [​IMG] BRAWLER Lieutenant Rifle + Light Shotgun / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 16)
    [​IMG] BRAWLER (Multispectral Visor L2) MULTI Sniper / Pistol, Knife. (1.5 | 28)
    [​IMG] CSU (Specialist Operative) Rifle + Light Shotgun, Nanopulser / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 12)
    [​IMG] JAGUAR Chain Rifle, Smoke Grenades / Pistol, DA CCW. (0 | 10)
    [​IMG] JAGUAR Chain Rifle, Smoke Grenades / Pistol, DA CCW. (0 | 10)

    5.5 SWC | 300 Points

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    The rest of the list isn't really too exciting, maybe even a bit squishy.
    The Tsyklon will do a great job of giving the hackers more repeater coverage, and with MMS lvl 2 it should do a great job hunting cheerleaders.
    The second group feels really good as it has enough orders to use the Smoke + MSV2 to take out a couple of ARO pieces. Later in the game the harris can advance the CSU as a back up specialist.

    Cheers!
     
  2. Kwisatz Haderach

    Kwisatz Haderach Zelenograd Shasvastii
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    My initial concept

    Starco. Free Company of the Star
    ──────────────────────────────────────────────────

    GROUP 1 9 / 1
    MOBILE BRIGADA HMG / Pistol, Knife. (2 | 42)
    DAKTARI Combi Rifle / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 14)
    SEÑOR MASSACRE Boarding Shotgun, E/M Grenades, Eclipse Grenades / Pistol, AP CCW, E/M CCW. (0 | 26)
    CLOCKMAKER Combi Rifle, D-Charges / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 18)
    UHAHU Hacker (Hacking Device Plus. UPGRADE: Icebreaker) Pitcher, D-Charges / Assault Pistol, Knife. (0.5 | 25)
    TRANSDUCTOR ZOND Flash Pulse, Sniffer / Electric Pulse. (0 | 8)
    SALYUT (Minesweeper, Repeater) Electric Pulse. (0 | 8)
    WARCOR (Aerocam) Flash Pulse / Stun Pistol, Knife. (0 | 3)
    CSU Combi Rifle, Nanopulser / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 12)
    ALGUACIL Combi Rifle / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 10)

    GROUP 27
    RIOT GRRL (Fireteam: Haris) Combi Rifle, Blitzen, Stun Grenades / Pistol, Knife. (0.5 | 30)
    RIOT GRRL Spitfire / Pistol, Knife. (2 | 34)
    AVICENNA Combi Rifle, Flash Pulse / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 27)
    ALGUACIL Combi Rifle / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 10)
    ALGUACIL Combi Rifle / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 10)
    CSU Combi Rifle, Nanopulser / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 12)
    ALGUACIL Lieutenant Combi Rifle / Pistol, Knife. (1 | 10)

    6 SWC | 299 Points

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    You have 2 links with specialists and heavy hitters. Maybe drop Uhahu for Alg hacker to just fairy dust our hitters
     
  3. Robock

    Robock Well-Known Member

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    I'd put both CSU in the same group to take advantage of their Duo (if you ever need to move them both at the same time, which is unlikely)
     
  4. Kwisatz Haderach

    Kwisatz Haderach Zelenograd Shasvastii
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    That's just rough concept. I didn't optimize groups
     
  5. TheRedZealot

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    I was trying to come up with a way to use all the outrage characters with the army but it doesnt seem to be working as well as I had hoped...

    [​IMG] Outragish
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    GROUP 1[​IMG] [​IMG] [​IMG]9 [​IMG]1
    [​IMG] ANACONDA (Fireteam: Duo) HMG + Chain-colt, Panzerfaust / CCW. (2 | 64)
    [​IMG] [​IMG] OPERATOR Spitfire / Pistol, Knife. (- | 0)
    [​IMG] EMILY (Chain of Command) Combi Rifle + Light Grenade Launcher (Normal and E/M), Nanopulser / Assault Pistol, Knife. (0.5 | 35)
    [​IMG] UHAHU Hacker (Hacking Device Plus. UPGRADE: Icebreaker) Pitcher, D-Charges / Assault Pistol, Knife. (0.5 | 25)
    [​IMG] SEÑOR MASSACRE Boarding Shotgun, E/M Grenades, Eclipse Grenades / Pistol, AP CCW, E/M CCW. (0 | 26)
    [​IMG] KNAUF MULTI Sniper / Heavy Pistol, Knife. (1.5 | 32)
    [​IMG] CSU (Specialist Operative) Breaker Combi Rifle, Nanopulser / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 15)
    [​IMG] CSU (Specialist Operative) Breaker Combi Rifle, Nanopulser / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 15)
    [​IMG] BRAWLER (Multispectral Visor L2) MULTI Sniper / Pistol, Knife. (1.5 | 28)
    [​IMG] BANDIT Boarding Shotgun, E/Mauler / Pistol, DA CCW. (0 | 26)
    [​IMG] BRAWLER Lieutenant Rifle + Light Shotgun / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 16)

    GROUP 2[​IMG] [​IMG] [​IMG]2
    [​IMG] TRANSDUCTOR ZOND Flash Pulse, Sniffer / Electric Pulse. (0 | 8)
    [​IMG] JAGUAR Chain Rifle, Smoke Grenades / Pistol, DA CCW. (0 | 10)

    6 SWC | 300 Points

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  6. DukeofEarl

    DukeofEarl Well-Known Member

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    I'm liking the idea of AD Spector to mid-field link up and form a new Haris out of a Brawler+CSU Haris. Probably using the initial Haris to bring a specialist up and drop it off.

    Something like this maybe.
    [​IMG] Starco. Free Company of the Star
    ──────────────────────────────────────────────────

    GROUP 1[​IMG] [​IMG] [​IMG]8 [​IMG]1
    [​IMG] SPECTOR (AD: Combat Jump) Boarding Shotgun, Nanopulser, Drop Bears / Pistol, E/M2 CC Weapon. (0 | 33)
    [​IMG] BRAWLER (Fireteam: Haris) Rifle + Light Shotgun / Pistol, Knife. (0.5 | 17)
    [​IMG] CSU (Specialist Operative) Breaker Combi Rifle, Nanopulser / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 15)
    [​IMG] BRAWLER Engineer Rifle + Light Shotgun, D-Charges / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 20)
    [​IMG] RIOT GRRL Missile Launcher / Pistol, Knife. (2 | 33)
    [​IMG] RIOT GRRL Spitfire / Pistol, Knife. (2 | 34)
    [​IMG] RIOT GRRL Boarding Shotgun, Stun Grenades + TinBot B (Deflector L2) / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 30)
    [​IMG] RIOT GRRL (Specialist Operative) Combi Rifle, Blitzen, Stun Grenades / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 30)
    [​IMG] AVICENNA Combi Rifle, Flash Pulse / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 27)

    GROUP 2[​IMG] [​IMG] [​IMG]2 [​IMG]1
    [​IMG] BANDIT Hacker (Killer Hacking Device) Light Shotgun, Adhesive Launcher / Pistol, DA CCW. (0 | 25)
    [​IMG] ALGUACIL MULTI Sniper Rifle / Pistol, Knife. (1.5 | 18)
    [​IMG] BRAWLER Lieutenant Rifle + Light Shotgun / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 16)

    6 SWC | 298 Points

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  7. Tristan228

    Tristan228 Morlock trainer
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    Yeah, no.
    Spector is only linkable if you use his FTO profile. So you have to choose between a irregular AD Dude or the linkable one.
     
  8. Deltervees

    Deltervees Crash Test Dumbass

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    What does FTO mean in Spectors case?
     
  9. Robock

    Robock Well-Known Member

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    in the spanish version the 2nd loadout is named SPECTOR FTO (Regular).

    While in english it is simply Spector (regular), and there is not FTO anywhere.
     
  10. TheRedZealot

    TheRedZealot Well-Known Member
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    I assumed it stood for "Fireteam Operator"
     
  11. DukeofEarl

    DukeofEarl Well-Known Member

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    Dang if it is only the Regular one that can be in a fireteam there goes my fun idea.
     
  12. kesharq

    kesharq Lucky Dice-Roller

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    Brawler Haris Fireteams must always include Raoul Specter? No Alguacil-Fireteam without Emily possible?
     
  13. DukeofEarl

    DukeofEarl Well-Known Member

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    Does Special override the rules or just add to them?
     
  14. Leviathan

    Leviathan Hungry Caliban

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    Brawler has Duo, Haris, Special. So special is in addition to Haris.

    Riots have Haris, Special. so no Core outside of special.




    I wanna post the list but it keeps giving me an error message.
     
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  15. DukeofEarl

    DukeofEarl Well-Known Member

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    [​IMG]

    Special must add to otherwise they wouldn't have "Core, Special"
     
  16. Death

    Death Well-Known Member

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    Yup, Alguaciles can form a core. Though its a good idea to use the special to add Emily since shes benefits a lot from the link bonuses.

    I'm surprise more people aren't excited about AD: Spector. Effectively 2 wounds with Mimetism, PH 13, and 4-4 move with shotgun. Holy crap, this guy is amazing. Hes got a DTW for intuitive attacks, CC skill to take advantage of smoke cover, and is even a threat to CC specialists.

    This guy is amazing, I'm surprised he isn't an auto include for everyone.
     
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  17. Leviathan

    Leviathan Hungry Caliban

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    Contemplating using this...


    Also, glad I was converting a Yuan-Yuan for Spector, that's pretty serendipitous :)


    [​IMG]Repeater Net
    ──────────────────────────────────────────────────

    GROUP 1[​IMG] [​IMG] [​IMG]9
    [​IMG] EMILY (Chain of Command) Combi Rifle + Light Grenade Launcher (Normal and E/M), Nanopulser / Assault Pistol, Knife. (0.5 | 35)
    [​IMG] ALGUACIL Lieutenant Combi Rifle / Pistol, Knife. (1 | 10)
    [​IMG] ALGUACIL Combi Rifle / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 10)
    [​IMG] BRAWLER (Fireteam: Haris) Rifle + Light Shotgun / Pistol, Knife. (0.5 | 17)
    [​IMG] BRAWLER Heavy Rocket Launcher / Assault Pistol, Knife. (1.5 | 18)
    [​IMG] CSU (Specialist Operative) Breaker Combi Rifle, Nanopulser / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 15)
    [​IMG] UHAHU Hacker (Hacking Device Plus. UPGRADE: Icebreaker) Pitcher, D-Charges / Assault Pistol, Knife. (0.5 | 25)
    [​IMG] TSYKLON Spitfire, Pitcher / Electric Pulse. (1 | 31)
    [​IMG] AVICENNA Combi Rifle, Flash Pulse / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 27)
    [​IMG] ZONDBOT Electric Pulse. (0 | 3)
    [​IMG] ZONDBOT Electric Pulse. (0 | 3)

    GROUP 2[​IMG] [​IMG] [​IMG]4 [​IMG]1
    [​IMG] HELLCAT (Deployable Repeater) Combi Rifle / Pistol, Knife. (0.5 | 23)
    [​IMG] HELLCAT (Deployable Repeater) Combi Rifle / Pistol, Knife. (0.5 | 23)
    [​IMG] SPECTOR (AD: Combat Jump) Boarding Shotgun, Nanopulser, Drop Bears / Pistol, E/M2 CC Weapon. (0 | 33)
    [​IMG] CSU (Specialist Operative) Rifle + Light Shotgun, Nanopulser / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 12)
    [​IMG] CSU (Specialist Operative) Breaker Combi Rifle, Nanopulser / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 15)

    6 SWC | 300 Points

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  18. Skaldur

    Skaldur Active Member

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    I'm keen to try something like this.

    Lots of orders, some AROs, a few heavy(ish) hitters to fuel with the orders, and enough specialists for objectives.

    [​IMG] THE STARS
    ──────────────────────────────────────────────────

    GROUP 1[​IMG] [​IMG] [​IMG]9 [​IMG]1
    [​IMG] ALGUACIL Missile Launcher / Pistol, Knife. (1.5 | 15)
    [​IMG] ALGUACIL Combi Rifle / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 10)
    [​IMG] ALGUACIL Combi Rifle / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 10)
    [​IMG] ALGUACIL Paramedic (MediKit) Combi Rifle / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 12)
    [​IMG] ALGUACIL Hacker (Hacking Device) Combi Rifle / Pistol, Knife. (0.5 | 18)
    [​IMG] JAGUAR Chain Rifle, Smoke Grenades / Pistol, DA CCW. (0 | 10)
    [​IMG] JAGUAR Chain Rifle, Smoke Grenades / Pistol, DA CCW. (0 | 10)
    [​IMG] MOBILE BRIGADA HMG / Pistol, Knife. (2 | 42)
    [​IMG] SPECTOR (AD: Combat Jump) Boarding Shotgun, Nanopulser, Drop Bears / Pistol, E/M2 CC Weapon. (0 | 33)
    [​IMG] HAWWA' (Forward Observer) Boarding Shotgun, D-Charges / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 21)

    GROUP 2[​IMG] [​IMG] [​IMG]5 [​IMG]2 [​IMG]1
    [​IMG] BRAWLER (Fireteam: Haris) Rifle + Light Shotgun / Pistol, Knife. (0.5 | 17)
    [​IMG] BRAWLER (Multispectral Visor L2) MULTI Sniper / Pistol, Knife. (1.5 | 28)
    [​IMG] BRAWLER Lieutenant Rifle + Light Shotgun / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 16)
    [​IMG] DAKTARI Combi Rifle / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 14)
    [​IMG] ZONDBOT Electric Pulse. (0 | 3)
    [​IMG] BANDIT Hacker (Killer Hacking Device) Light Shotgun, Adhesive Launcher / Pistol, DA CCW. (0 | 25)
    [​IMG] IRMANDINHO Chain Rifle, D-Charges, Smoke Grenades / Pistol, AP CCW. (0 | 8)
    [​IMG] TRANSDUCTOR ZOND Flash Pulse, Sniffer / Electric Pulse. (0 | 8)

    6 SWC | 300 Points

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    On the whole, I feel like Starco isn't super competitive but it might be in a better place than Corregidor. Should be fun to play though.
     
  19. Death

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    Why isn't Starco super competitive? And I thought Corregidor was a competitive army. Whats wrong with them?

    What I see in Starco is the ability to run a Riot Grrls doom link. Which I do see as superior to the similarly cost Mobile Brigada special link. The Riot Grrls are one of the best HI links in the game and you got all you need to support them in Starco.

    On the flip side you can take 16 order lists with an Alguaciles link + infiltrators + AD troops for a flexability midfield force.
     
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  20. Skaldur

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    @Death

    I don't want to derrail this thread into a bash Corregidor thead ( they are my first and favorite faction fluffwise). But basically Corregidor lacks alot of nomads strongest units and many of the strong units they do have work just as well or better in vanilla nomads.

    Starco has a lot of Corregidor units and appears to have equal or better link options for them eg. Mobile brigada with daktari and massacre.

    It also has over Corregidor:
    Riot grrls
    HDplus
    An nwi drop troop
    Avienncia

    That's just a few things after a quick read of list, there are probably more.

    The things I'd miss from Corregidor are:
    Intruders
    Morans
    Mcmurrough
    Jaguar link

    This is just theory until I play some games with starco but currently to me they look like slightly different Corregidor. I don't think they are going to be taking infinity tables by storm like some of the other factions out there.
     
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