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I'll leave this out there for us to salivate over ...

Discussion in 'Haqqislam' started by oldGregg, Jan 4, 2019.

  1. colbrook

    colbrook Black Fryer

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    They could be like the Druze, cut mid torso under the armpits, with different shoulder/head pieces.

    That would actually make a lot of sense considering the turbans.
     
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  2. Barrogh

    Barrogh Well-Known Member

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    Speaking of HRL, I would like to point out that it's not uncommon for HRL profiles to also rock an assault pistol.

    To be fair, we don't just discuss models here, we also talk about profiles. And Fat2 is a khawariji (if profile-specific) thing...

    To be technical, if you put the only 2 existing profiles with Fat2 in the game at total -12, Fat2 effectively ceases working because two crit points overlap at that point.

    Also, flanking, indirect fire of any sort, CC and (something that wasn't mentioned IIRC) DTWs still don't care about the rule in question.

    On topic of not having more specific ways to disable the rule - well, extra points in BS also cannot be disabled unless you give that unit no chance to use the stat at all, but we take it as granted, apparently just because they aren't isolated in some sort of fancy rule that didn't exist some time ago. However, if you think about it, on the table most of things that describe a profile fuse together into a single indivisible ball of performance, so it doesn't really matter where your odds come from, especially if you have no ways to affect many of those sources.

    On a side note, many lists and even some armies treat simple mimetism the same way we have to treat Fat2 - to them it's not going out of the equation unless you don't shoot at them using BS at all.
     
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  3. Manfred_VR

    Manfred_VR Well-Known Member

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    New Khawarijs sculpts are wonderful, all 4 models are amazing, Haqq miniatures are among the best in infinity.
    I hope to see very soon Ramah.
     
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  4. Section9

    Section9 Well-Known Member

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    You're right, but given range bands and table size it's very hard to get them down to -12. -9 is far easier to achieve, and for any model without Fat2, it'd probably be enough. Drops most BS13 shooters down to 5-15% chances to do damage.
     
  5. KwarkyMats

    KwarkyMats Well-Known Member

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    Heavy Rocket Launchers profiles are usually paired with a short range weapon like an assault pistol, smg or shotguns.
    In a fireteam, the HRL profile will give the link some nice long range firepower, but I think it'll do nicely as a solo piece as well.
    Jumping around it should be able possible to get some nice angles on clumped together infantry. Assuming no visual modifiers you should be able lay down two templates on 13's and in some cases even 16's. That's not too bad if you're able to clip multiple troopers.
     
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  6. YhGoauld_II

    YhGoauld_II Active Member

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    I love the four models! They are amazing! Khawarijs are one of my favourites miniatures since a long time ago.

    I remember when they were the only Lt with 0 SWC :D

    I think it´s very important to know what profile will be Haris: I hope Spitfire, Doctor, HRL or MK12 would be a great option. Doctor+MK12+Spitfire or Doctor+MK12/Spitfire+HRL.

    If we have Doctor+Haris+Heavy Weapon, we will have a difficult decision to make: MK12, Spitfire or HRL :S

    Yes! This is one of the reasons I choose HRL in Haris of Sekbhans, the Assault Pistol over Spitfire.
     
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  7. oldGregg

    oldGregg Well-Known Member

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    Unfortunately, I think this is the most likely scenario.
     
  8. Vandroiy

    Vandroiy Well-Known Member
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    i really hope for the good of the game that spitfire option wont go in any fireteam
     
  9. KwarkyMats

    KwarkyMats Well-Known Member

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    Giraldez posted the Khawarij from different angles and it looks like he's carrying a weapon on his back. A Haqqislam assault pistol design doesn't exist yet and it looks very similar like the Daylami light shotgun, so I think it's a light shotgun!
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  10. Xeurian

    Xeurian Well-Known Member

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    Most likely. The ML Govad has one as well but it is unfortunately not on the mini.
     
  11. YhGoauld_II

    YhGoauld_II Active Member

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    Please, don´t be catastrophic...one thing cannot destroy the game...there are another tremendous profiles like Sphinx, Avatar, Aquiles, Spetnatz, Proxys or the fireteam Kamau Sniper+Fusiliers and anyone say anything...but Khawarij Spitfire in a Fireteam will destroy the game.

    Please, relax...more mint tea :D
     
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  12. Errhile

    Errhile A traveller on the Silk Road

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    Definitely. The same LSG model Daylami do use - also, widespread in Nomad force.
     
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  13. oldGregg

    oldGregg Well-Known Member

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    If this is truly a a HRL + LSG, I'm going to be so happy. That seems really good. I'e explained in other places how I use the Khawarij now, and that loadout fits my tactics marvelously. And it it can join a fireteam? Well dang. I might need two. (But probably not, because the spitfire is rad and the mk12 looks sweet).
     
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  14. KedzioR_vo

    KedzioR_vo Well-Known Member
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    Yeah, the light shotgun on the back of HRL Khawarij is a great thing :) I'd prefer an assault pistol for bigger versality of the upcoming link team, but still shotgun for close shots or ARO against cc is nice.


    PozdRawiam / Greetings
     
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  15. ambisinister

    ambisinister Broken Zoetrope

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    I think the assault pistol would be fantastic because i don't think there's going to be any shortage of shotguns in that link, but I also agree that it's unlikely.
     
  16. Xeurian

    Xeurian Well-Known Member

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    Haqq links seldom do. Always amusing to inform an opponent you are getting +9 BS when they flank a little too close to an unassuming Ghulam Doctor.
     
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  17. Solar

    Solar Well-Known Member

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    The minis are beautiful. Haqq getting the most quality releases strikes again!
     
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  18. ik3rian

    ik3rian Anti-Ariadnian Specialist

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    Minis are nice, and new profiles are really tempting. I just wish for the competition in RTF when it comes to links. When it comes to the current possibilities, i would still run Zhayedans link over Khawarijis, i am digging their look more. I would absolutely love linkable or infiltrating antiarmor option, like Tankhunters. But yeah, CC competent units like Khawarijis can cut tags/HI too, you just need to jump more :P
     
  19. Agorapocalypse

    Agorapocalypse Namurr and Nahab are girlfriends

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    I agree, one of my favorite gaming moments was having a khawarij superjump through a window to cc an entrenched Yan Huo. Beat his ass down.
     
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  20. Wombat85

    Wombat85 Well-Known Member

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    Thats called just being plain lucky:

    Active Player
    36.75% Khawarijs inflicts 1 or more wounds on Yān Huǒ Invincibles (1 W)

    Failures
    48.26% Neither player succeeds
    Reactive Player (Knife)
    14.99% Yān Huǒ Invincibles inflicts 1 or more wounds on Khawarijs (Unconscious)

    Active Player
    36.75% Khawarijs inflicts 1 or more wounds on Yān Huǒ Invincibles (1 W)

    Failures
    47.12% Neither player succeeds
    Reactive Player (Pistol)
    16.12% Yān Huǒ Invincibles inflicts 1 or more wounds on Khawarijs (Unconscious)