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Ikari exclusive unit

Discussion in 'Ikari Company' started by wuji, Apr 1, 2021.

  1. wuji

    wuji Well-Known Member

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    Should Ikari company have at least one exclusive unit? Some prime fireteam that left JSA with the Col. Some light HI or Heavy MI Core, Haris/Duo with Wildcard, something special like like Evaders but with a Japanese feel Mim -6, or Koalas, CC or whatever with some specialist that suits Ikari company? Basically Ikari company's version of Druze, and CB can ponder whether or not to introduce Ikari based on these troops. I'd prefer if somehow people can marry the idea of JSA and Druze in order to create whatever this unit is gonna be while at the same time giving IC something they need. So maybe even Kempeitai troops that serve as good Lts and bring board control or what ever. That's all my suggestions right now, have at it people, let's make something popular enough CB has a "damn" reaction!!
     
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  2. archangeleong

    archangeleong Deadly Ninja Assassin

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    They should make a Colonel Ikari model
     
  3. Dyne

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    Colonel Ikari at most, but I wouldn't have much hope :cry:
     
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  4. TheDiceAbide

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    Agreed. Though I do like him being off camera.
     
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  5. stevenart74

    stevenart74 Well-Known Member

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    Do any of You think that Colonel Ikari would be modeled overmuch on that classical Videogame. . .??

    Martial Art Expert, dressing an austere 1950-1960 Uniform (something a mix between a Green Beret Officer and a Russian Spetsnatz), with a Basque Beret and an Eyepatch. . . . .???

    Honestly, even if "Vietnam War" Parade Dresscode would be cool, something reminding the more Advanced Armours of "Metal Gear Solid Phantom Pain" would be more practical (and, coincidentally, the Main Character wear an Eyepatch). . .

    Do You see Him more as "Professional Unflinching Military Officer" or more "Former Hatamoto of a Daymyo, Now Ronin". .?
     
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  6. Dyne

    Dyne Well-Known Member

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    Me too. A mix between Heidern and Gendo Ikari.

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  7. wuji

    wuji Well-Known Member

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    Eyepatch, beard, messy hair and beret would be perfect. But MI or HI? He would still be good at CC. These guys do it for so many years and they take care of their bodies, plus Infinity has Lhosts, and I dont think he's a "1 life fanatic".
     
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    Mahtamori Well-Known Member

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    For a few reasons that might be a bit lore-insensitive I can see Ikari being a Domaru, but focused more of a rapid-fire-gunplay Domaru to Neko's even-more-CC Domaru.
     
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  9. wuji

    wuji Well-Known Member

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    But Neko is no longer better than other Domaru in CC.
     
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    Mahtamori Well-Known Member

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    Oh yeah, that's true, he's just really expensive...

    But still, a character based off of the Spitfire Domaru :)
     
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  11. Fed4ykin

    Fed4ykin Well-Known Member

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    It's a Shame that dual wield is gone and that he lost his explosive weapon. And MA 4.
    To think that neko in n3 was able to crit in 8 in CC with berserk was the highest critchance of all troopers in the game.
    But hey he has tactical awareness now... For 7 more points.

    If ikari would be a Char he should be fitting to his lore. So an officer and a samurai.
     
  12. colbrook

    colbrook Grenade Delivery Specialist

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    Dual Weild isn't really gone, it's just represented by CC Attack (Shock).

    With the upgrade to E/M CCWs I'm actually a little conflicted on whether EM+Shock is now better than AP+EXP for Neko.
     
  13. Fed4ykin

    Fed4ykin Well-Known Member

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    I know. But originally you just had both weaponeffects now it's just shock.
    I would prefer to be able to hit with DA or even exp and EM at once instead of shock.
    Would be nice to hit someone with em andino at once with the oniwanban. I know they never had dual wield. But gained an EM ccw in N4.
     
  14. wuji

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    Speaking of Domaru, Neko, and I'll mention Musashi for a moment cause I started that other thread. When people think of characters, why is their such a split in the crowd that a character is okay to be essentially a cheaper or more expensive version of something else and others actually want differentiation. Especially when there is overlap, it seems most people would rather gain for differentiation than lose for differention. In Neko's case, it picked up TA and BTS 6cause one point in WIP and a an additional CCW and Pistol are really different enough. But TA and BTS mean he brings tactical.presence as a commander and he's better suited to be linked with Karakuri if you dont want to invest in an EVO. In Musashi's case, CB traded Berserk+3 for +1CC and MA5. Reduced durability and the hacking susceptibility and gained +2 MOV along with +2 WIP. I'll call the weapons loadout a wash. Why is are so many assumingly content with Neko, I am, but not with Musashi, I'm not? Did I hit on the head? And if I did hit on the head, why after this people who say he's fine understand that trading up or sideways is better than trading down or middling, still say it's fine but it's not.

    Like if we get Ikari, and a Japanese unit to come along with him, it's not gonna "feel good" if he is less than or the same as them. Likewise Arslan losing X-Visor for Courage Dodge+3 and MSV1, it doesnt necessarily "feel bad" but it doesnt quite make sense either. Dodge with out CC skills is defensive, but courage is offensive and MSV is expensive unless on the right platform and the more you lean into shooting the less you wanna Dodge. Plus he's the character Lt. with the same WIP as Druze. I'm sure theres more to say but people get it. Characters should either be significantly different or better, IMO. And maybe it's just I have a differing opinion on what significant would look like but I hope discussing, Neko, Musashi and Arslan is enough. And yes, I get that MSV1 is something now in N4 but so are alot of things for a guy who is possibly your Lt and you're gonna use him as your trpubleshooter with no CoC.
     
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    stevenart74 Well-Known Member

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    Was thinking to introduce some "Badass Ikari Veterans" in the Infinity RPG Game that I will start soon. . .

    Maybe could try out some Rough Sketch Concept of a POTENTIAL "Colonel Ikari". . .

    Could try to give a Basque Beret and an Eyepatch, but also clearly some Domaru Armour (Ruined and Vintage Styled, but well kept notwithstanding "Wear-&-Tear". . .) and a Spitfire (maybe NOT a Yujing Model; perhaps a "Technoed Up" Ariadnan Version). . .
     
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  16. wuji

    wuji Well-Known Member

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    troll? (Wow what a typo!!, it's supposed to say "Does the lore say", jesus lol) The lore say what unit he was in, like was a Domaru, I always thought so but last we talked about him specifically, people seemed opposed to it like it wasnt lore.
     
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  17. Fed4ykin

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    He is just mentioned as a high ranking officer in the Japanese army that lost his family through the war and because of that hates yu jing and the Japanese as well.
     
  18. stevenart74

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    I had always the impression that Professional Officers in the JSA have been always Domaru (or Domaru-Like). . .

    Maybe drawing Him in a "Generic Cybersamurai Armour" (with elements taken from various Nihonjin Power-Suits and Medium Armours, of different ages, such as the venerable N2, N3 ones) would be useful to not have Colonel Ikari shoehorned in a "Unit Niche". . .

    Maybe also, as before was discussed if was better a MI or an HI, could be imagined in two different "Loadouts". . .

    The "Spetsnatz Uniform" of "Videogame Heidern" could be a MI (reinforced patches and a Kevlar Tshirt Underneath) with a Sniper Loadout. . .

    The "Heavy Samurai Uniform" would be instead aimed to powerful offensive, with the aforementioned Spitfire and other possible "Big Bad Weapons" that will also give an edge towards the Offensive Tactics of typical Ikari Lists. . .

    Absolutely have no idea what of those two potential, hypothethical "Rough Sketched Loadouts" would be better in CC. . . . .
     
  19. wuji

    wuji Well-Known Member

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    Would people be opposed to Ikari being a Wildcard Domaru Lt with HSG, BTS6, WIP 14 and Strategos 1?

    And the special Ikari unit that defected from JSA with him which is like his personal crew could be this concoction of Kempeitai and Ryuken 9. The sculpts could be loosely based off of the crew of the Bebop.

    ShinjitsuNoRyu, or some other Japanese name about a Dragon of Truth. Basically Ikari's followers disillusioned with all the bullshit after seeing the truth of everything.

    Stats:
    M4-4 C19 B12 P11 W13 A1 B3 W1 S2 A4
    Skills:
    Courage, MA2
    Fireteams: Haris and Duo. Can form core with Ikari.
    • Appearance could be the coats of the Kempeitai minus the sleeves over Ryuken clothing. Girls in long coats, dudes in short coats.
    Profiles:
    1. MSV2, X-visor, Shock Marksman rifle, Heavy Pistol, Para CCW -3(looks like Fey, hood up, wearing her typical glasses, in shooting pose coat hangs to one side revealing figure for you fanboys)
    2. SMG, Breaker Pistol +1B, x-visor, Para CCW -3, CoC, Number 2, SS(looks like Spike, hood down, classic spike pose brandishing pistol, with the other hand doing the shooting gesture, "shots howdy")
    3. SMG, (HD+to really be Ed or just KHD to match Ikari better), Minelayer, Breaker Pistol, Mimetism-6, CCW, D-Charges, Surprise Attack -3, Crazy(substitute Ein)Koalas (looks like Ed, hood down, oversized coat partially concealing SMG, crazy hair, big goggles, hacking with both hands)
    4. HRL, SMG, mimetism -6, SS, Heavy Pistol, CCW. (Looks like jet, hood down, checking his weapons are ready)
    • Other fireteams in this sectorial may have one Dragon of Truth.
    Yeah its some copy paste and melding the stats but what you get is something different, quirky and what I imagine Ikari to build, he takes people from the intelligence fields as his main people and mixes their equipment, and training with a little of his own MA thrown in to build something truly Ikari and all the costs will be roughly the same as the originals. I hope someone in CB sees this and loses their shit! Cause this box and Ikari blister would put IC one of the GOAT!
     
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  20. Fed4ykin

    Fed4ykin Well-Known Member

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    I guess the guys he took with him are the tanko, daiyokai and karakuri as well as keisotsu. I don't think ikari will ever get an HD+ as ikari is a no nonsense aggressive, I come right at your throat approach designwise.
     
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