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IA @ 400

Discussion in 'Yu Jing' started by Mahtamori, Apr 3, 2019.

  1. Mahtamori

    Mahtamori Well-Known Member

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    So I don't usually play 400 points (read: "never"). How would you build an IA list at 400 points for Quadrant Control? Opponent faction: no idea. Number of lists I can choose from: 1, max 2 combat groups.
    Do you stick to 1 combat group or do you branch off into 2?
     
  2. Ben Kenobi

    Ben Kenobi Well-Known Member

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    Don't know why to stick to one combat group, even with 300 points.
    Main advise would be to expect many tags, therefore take enough ADH's an KHD with you.

    Edit: To be honest, I have no idea of IA
     
  3. Cannon Fodder

    Cannon Fodder Well-Known Member

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    a couple people in my LGS do 400 point Limited insertion, I actually tried making one for IA and ended up with 399 points 9 regular orders without a tag.

    I think IA at 400 points without limited insertion will actually be a problem. At 400 points most faction can get 20 order in 2 battle groups in which you will be on the receiving end of shortage of orders. This is something IA usually does to their opponent. I would stick with a strong 300 point list with 14 orders and add in solid ARO pieces in a second battle group. The AROs will probably eat up your opponents orders. The biggest problem is that IA has SWC expensive ARO pieces. If there were non-Multi Sniper rifles I woudl look into them.

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    YĀN HUǑ 2 Missile Launchers + TinBot C (Neurocinetics) / Pistol, Knife. (2 | 56)
    HÙSÒNG Yaókòng HMG / Electric Pulse. (1 | 25)
    LÙ DUĀN Mk12, Heavy Flamethrower / Electric Pulse. (0 | 21)

    3 SWC | 102 Points

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  4. Section9

    Section9 Well-Known Member

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    Something like this, maybe?

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    DĀOYĪNG Lieutenant L2 Hacker (Hacking Device) Boarding Shotgun / Breaker Pistol, Knife. (0.5 | 29)
    TAI SHENG Mk12, Chain-colt, Stun Grenades / Heavy Pistol, Knife. (0 | 45)
    ZÚYŎNG (Fireteam: Haris, Tactical Awareness) Combi Rifle + 1 TinBot B (Deflector L2) / 2 Breaker Pistols, Knife. (0.5 | 34)
    ZÚYŎNG (Fireteam: Duo, Tactical Awareness) HMG / 2 Breaker Pistols, Knife. (1.5 | 38)
    HǍIDÀO Hacker (Killer Hacking Device) Boarding Shotgun / Breaker Pistol, Knife. (0 | 26)
    SHÀNG JÍ Heavy Rocket Launcher, Light Shotgun / Pistol, Shock CCW. (2 | 39)
    HǍIDÀO Engineer Combi Rifle, D-Charges / Breaker Pistol, Knife. (0 | 28)
    YÁOZĂO Electric Pulse. (0 | 3)
    HǍIDÀO (Multispectral Visor L2) MULTI Sniper / Breaker Pistol, Knife. (1.5 | 37)
    YĀN HUǑ Hyper-Rapid Magnetic Cannon / Pistol, Knife. (2 | 54)
    HAC TAO Hacker (Killer Hacking Device) MULTI Rifle, Nanopulser / Pistol, DA CCW. (0 | 67)

    8 SWC | 400 Points

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  5. Janzerker

    Janzerker Invincible Angry

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    I would use those extra 100 pts to try to fit all the tools that you can't normally pack in a 300 pts list. Definitively go for two groups. The next list can generate 20 orders and the haris Tai Sheng, TacAw HMG TacAw Tinbot packs a good punch and is easier to maneuver than a heavier core.

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    HǍIDÀO (Multispectral Visor L2) MULTI Sniper / Breaker Pistol, Knife. (1.5 | 37)
    ZHANSHI Combi Rifle / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 11)
    ZHANSHI Combi Rifle / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 11)
    ZHANSHI Combi Rifle / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 11)
    SON-BAE Yaókòng Missile Launcher / Electric Pulse. (1.5 | 17)
    ZÚYŎNG (Fireteam: Duo, Tactical Awareness) HMG / 2 Breaker Pistols, Knife. (1.5 | 38)
    ZÚYŎNG (Fireteam: Haris, Tactical Awareness) Combi Rifle + 1 TinBot B (Deflector L2) / 2 Breaker Pistols, Knife. (0.5 | 34)
    TAI SHENG (Chain of Command) Mk12, Chain-colt, Stun Grenades / Heavy Pistol, Knife. (0 | 49)
    LIÚ XĪNG (Specialist Operative) MULTI Rifle, D-Charges / Pistol, CC Weapon. (0 | 38)
    DĀOYĪNG Lieutenant L2 (Minelayer) MULTI Sniper, Antipersonnel Mines / Breaker Pistol, Knife. (1.5 | 32)

    GROUP 2[​IMG] [​IMG] [​IMG]6 [​IMG]1
    MECH-ENGINEER Combi Rifle, D-Charges / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 15)
    YÁOZĂO Electric Pulse. (0 | 3)
    Zhanshi YĪSHĒNG Combi Rifle / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 15)
    YÁOZĂO Electric Pulse. (0 | 3)
    CHAĪYÌ Yaókòng Flash Pulse, Sniffer / Electric Pulse. (0 | 8)
    WÈIBĪNG Yaókòng Combi Rifle, Sniffer / Electric Pulse. (0 | 16)
    PANGGULING Hacker (EVO Hacking Device) Electric Pulse. (0.5 | 25)
    ZHĒNCHÁ (Forward Observer) Submachine Gun, D.E.P., Antipersonnel Mines / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 34)
    WARCOR (360º Visor) Flash Pulse / Stun Pistol, Knife. (0 | 3)

    7 SWC | 400 Points

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  6. Space Ranger

    Space Ranger Well-Known Member

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    Time to finally do the Shang Ji Pain Train? :smile:
     
  7. Greysturm

    Greysturm Well-Known Member

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    For cuadrant control? Id say go full zhencha availability and consider adding a hulangs for datatracker.

    Anything that starts forward and can survive is a plus in that mision. Also consider Liuxing as its an excelent cuadrant clearer and can help with antitag duties.

    Other than that any core or haris fireteam would do nicely.
     
  8. Mahtamori

    Mahtamori Well-Known Member

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    I've been thinking about it, but it's going to have problems with range. I'd have to have a couple of other models able to suppress at range, plus Zuyong can't join it so no Tai Sheng in it and the SWC cost...
    Showing up with an LI list would be cocky indeed.

    I mean, if this isn't outside my comfort zone, what is?

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    HǍIDÀO (Multispectral Visor L2) MULTI Sniper / Breaker Pistol, Knife. (1.5 | 37)
    SHÀNG JÍ Hacker (Assault Hacking Device) Combi Rifle + Light Flamethrower / Pistol, Shock CCW. (0.5 | 43)
    SHÀNG JÍ (Fireteam: Haris, Tactical Awareness) Combi Rifle + Light Flamethrower + TinBot B (Deflector L2) / Pistol, Shock CCW. (0.5 | 43)
    SHÀNG JÍ (Tactical Awareness) Spitfire / Pistol, Shock CCW. (2 | 45)
    SHÀNG JÍ Paramedic (Medikit) Combi Rifle + Light Flamethrower / Pistol, Shock CCW. (0 | 39)
    YĀN HUǑ (FTO) 2 Missile Launchers / Pistol, Knife. (2 | 52)
    HǍIDÀO Engineer Combi Rifle, D-Charges / Breaker Pistol, Knife. (0 | 28)
    TAI SHENG (Chain of Command) Breaker Combi Rifle, Chain-colt + 1 TinBot B (Deflector L2) / Heavy Pistol, Knife. (0 | 49)
    Zhanshi YĪSHĒNG Combi Rifle / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 15)
    YÁOZĂO Electric Pulse. (0 | 3)
    YÁOZĂO Electric Pulse. (0 | 3)
    YÁOZĂO Electric Pulse. (0 | 3)
    YÁOZĂO Electric Pulse. (0 | 3)
    DĀOYĪNG Lieutenant L2 (Minelayer) MULTI Sniper, Antipersonnel Mines / Breaker Pistol, Knife. (1.5 | 32)

    8 SWC | 395 Points

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    (Except it doesn't work because Tai Sheng doesn't have Haris skill and I can't really fit two links like that well due to SWC and points mismatch)
     
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  9. ambisinister

    ambisinister Broken Zoetrope

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    The question I’d ask is what are you actually gaining from the Shang Ji core? They don’t really add that much for their cost. Using a more conventional Zuyong core, and even including a Shang Ji hacker, you save enough points to run a full two Yan Huo haris if you want. Sticking to one combat group (if that’s important)I couldn’t even get to 400. If you wanted to split into two combat groups, you could replace a Yan Huo with a Haidao sniper and cut two yaozao to save more points for group 2.

    Invincible Army──────────────────────────────────────────────────[​IMG]10 ZÚYŎNG (Fireteam: Duo, Tactical Awareness) HMG / 2 Breaker Pistols, Knife. (1.5 | 38) ZÚYŎNG (Fireteam: Haris, Tactical Awareness) Combi Rifle + 1 TinBot B (Deflector L2) / 2 Breaker Pistols, Knife. (0.5 | 34) SHÀNG JÍ Hacker (Assault Hacking Device) Combi Rifle + Light Flamethrower / Pistol, Shock CCW. (0.5 | 43) TAI SHENG Mk12, Chain-colt, Stun Grenades / Heavy Pistol, Knife. (0 | 45) HǍIDÀO Engineer Combi Rifle, D-Charges / Breaker Pistol, Knife. (0 | 28) YĀN HUǑ (FTO) 2 Missile Launchers / Pistol, Knife. (2 | 52) YĀN HUǑ (FTO) 2 Missile Launchers / Pistol, Knife. (2 | 52) ZÚYŎNG (Fireteam: Haris, Tactical Awareness) Combi Rifle + 1 TinBot B (Deflector L2) / 2 Breaker Pistols, Knife. (0.5 | 34) DĀOYĪNG Lieutenant L2 Hacker (Hacking Device) Boarding Shotgun / Breaker Pistol, Knife. (0.5 | 29) Zhanshi YĪSHĒNG Combi Rifle / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 15) YÁOZĂO Electric Pulse. (0 | 3) YÁOZĂO Electric Pulse. (0 | 3) YÁOZĂO Electric Pulse. (0 | 3) YÁOZĂO Electric Pulse. (0 | 3) 7.5 SWC | 382 PointsOpen in Infinity Army

    Edit: sorry for the garbage mobile formatting.