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I just checked, hell froze over

Discussion in 'Yu Jing' started by Triumph, Mar 24, 2022.

  1. Triumph

    Triumph Well-Known Member

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    CB buffed Gao, he got ECM hacker -3
     
  2. the huanglong

    the huanglong Well-Known Member

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    Was too busy celebrating AVA 5 Zhanshi in IA and WBA to notice.
     
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  3. psychoticstorm

    psychoticstorm Aleph's rogue child
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    Somebody noticed AVA 5 Zhanshi!
     
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  4. Hecaton

    Hecaton EI Anger Translator

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    Should have given him the automedikit that he had in Defiance. Or an HSG profile.
     
  5. Knauf

    Knauf Transhumanist

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    Just to make sure I understand this correctly:
    All those Duos in Vanilla basically mean we can now attach a Firewall [-6] and possibly NCO or another TacAware to a Guijia or Mowang or Su Jian or what have you?
     
  6. colbrook

    colbrook Black Fryer

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    Yep, good for preventing Frenzy too.

    Though I do wish they'd gotten rid of Fireteams suppressing Frenzy and Impetuous.
     
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  7. Knauf

    Knauf Transhumanist

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    Wow, this changes everything. Back to the drawing board :P
     
  8. Space Ranger

    Space Ranger Well-Known Member

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    Umm, Niiice??

    I can't say that makes him worth it though. If he was a specialist needing to go near hackers, sure. But it would be have just been easier to give him a tinbot wouldn't it?
     
  9. psychoticstorm

    psychoticstorm Aleph's rogue child
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    A tinbot would not stuck with other Tinbots.
     
  10. Space Ranger

    Space Ranger Well-Known Member

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    Stack? Sure, but I'm still not sure if it's worth it. So hacking him would be at -9, just go for the guy next to him.
     
  11. Miraclebutt

    Miraclebutt Well-Known Member

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    He's functionally impossible to hack as the Tinbot-6 and ECM-3 would both stack the -WIP mods and the -DAM mods, meaning the only program that could stop him -- Carbonite -- bounces off his BTS 6 at damage 7.

    It's very compelling, but as Space Ranger pointed out they'd probably just hack the guy with the Tinbot instead, so you can't just march through a repeater net.

    Still, I'm interested.
     
  12. Triumph

    Triumph Well-Known Member

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    Ehhhh I don't think ECM provides a -damage mod? You're the second person I've seen say this is this more common than I thought?

    Are people actually playing with ECM Guided -6 reduces the damage of a guided missile by 6?
     
  13. Mahtamori

    Mahtamori Well-Known Member

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    Carbonite is damage 4 against Qiang (and Shang Ji) in a Firewalled team (13 - 6 for BTS and -3 for the wall). Carbonite isn't AP, it's DA.

    Like it was in N3 when Jisus didn't exist, this profile would've been relevant by the merits of that what he brought was not found in the sectorial, but since both sectorials he's in have Jisus with the same tags as Qiang, he's competing with Jisus who have both a better and wider kit at roughly the same points.
     
  14. archon

    archon Well-Known Member

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    Firewall reduces damage by -3 flat. The differenz btw -3 and -6 applys only to the WIP roll.

    So carbonite against Qiang with Tinbot support suffers a -9 to WIP and -3 to damage. An average hacker with WIP 13 is on 4 to hit with B2 vs 13 to reset on B1. Damage 13 is reduced to 10 and will be saved on a 5 (two rolls for DA). I think that count as not very likely to hurt him quantronicaly.

    https://infinitythewiki.com/Firewall
     
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