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How to fix Pano

Discussion in 'PanOceania' started by Zsolt, Jul 21, 2018.

  1. eciu

    eciu Easter worshiper

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    Sorry, I was calculating Emily. Plus check your calculator, it includes -3 mod for range, which shouldn't be taken (you have X-Visor).

    Ok, my bad seems calculator shows some things in a different manner when X-Visor is included.

    25% chance seems to be for a 16"-24" range band, so you still need to use 1-2 orders to move ;P
     
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  2. andre61

    andre61 Well-Known Member

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    Where can I find the infinity calculator?
     
  3. Stiopa

    Stiopa Trust The Fuckhead
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  4. Zsolt

    Zsolt Well-Known Member

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    Why did anyone thought releasing that would be a good idea?
     
  5. Zsolt

    Zsolt Well-Known Member

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    Also it has different numbers for dodge and change facing, while they supposed to be the same, as you are dodging on -3. Or I'm missing something.
     
  6. andre61

    andre61 Well-Known Member

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  7. TriggerPuller9000

    TriggerPuller9000 Poverty Orde Wingate

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    If your TAG is a Squalo (HGL), you can pound that Druze link team or Emily from your own DZ in a handful of orders, without ever having to spend orders on maneuver. ~10 orders to kill a TR bot and immobilize a TAG really isn't that impressive - Shinobu can dice a TAG in a single order if she pulls off deployment correctly.

    For ea. Druze caught under the template:

    Active Player
    21.80% Squalos inflicts 1 or more wounds on Druze Shock Teams (Unconscious)

    Failures
    48.95% Neither player succeeds
    Reactive Player
    29.25% Druze Shock Teams Dodges Squalos

    For Emily:

    Active Player
    26.04% Squalos inflicts 1 or more wounds on Emily Handelman, Intel Agent (Unconscious)

    Failures
    48.96% Neither player succeeds
    Reactive Player
    25.00% Emily Handelman, Intel Agent Dodges Squalos


    For comparison, a 5-link of Druze are nailing the Squalo 20.25% of the time in 0 range, and Emily is doing it 15.62% of the time.

    The point, "E/M LGLs can immobilize my TAG and kill my TR bot" isn't really any more valid than the generic comment that weapons in Infinity are lethal.
     
    #507 TriggerPuller9000, Aug 16, 2018
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  8. daboarder

    daboarder Force One Commander
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    Even better, have a dedicated Sniffer drop group. anything on ARO dies to direct fire, so you can typically push the sniffers in group two right up the table in about 3-4 orders. then you can satlock and rain the death down on 18s
     
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  9. Keyrott

    Keyrott Nomad Handyman

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    I think the ZC may end up a WIP 13 Jammer with limited TO or something similar. Still, very happy to see PanO getting something cool to play around with :)
     
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  10. eciu

    eciu Easter worshiper

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    [​IMG]

    Jammer you say ?
     
  11. Judge Dredd

    Judge Dredd Well-Known Member
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    Holy shit balls yes!
     
  12. Riquende

    Riquende Well-Known Member

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    *Throws NCA models out of the window to make room for Varuna on the shelf

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    *Goes outside and recovers Hexa and Locust for use in vanilla
     
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  13. andre61

    andre61 Well-Known Member

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    Yay! I can't wait for November to get here, I may not toss out my NCA but I will shell she'll my CHA.
     
  14. Skoll

    Skoll Well-Known Member
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    I really hope those profile touch ups hit the teutons and sepulcher.

    Well teutons need more of a rework
     
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    loricus Satellite Druid

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    OK, this is epic.
     
  16. Riquende

    Riquende Well-Known Member

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    My only issue is that I really don't like the new trend of PanO helmets being just face masks. Luckily I really like the Bolt helmet design, have plenty of them that I'm not likely to use, and a saw.
     
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  17. Zsolt

    Zsolt Well-Known Member

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    Funny how you pay 5 pts for a WIP15 jammer and likely 20-30 for a WIP13 one.

    Limited TO would be weird. It can't be too cheap, but then you'll end up paying the price of a croc man or so for something without TO.
     
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  18. Stiopa

    Stiopa Trust The Fuckhead
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    Irregular, XImpetous, template weapons only. That's three strong discounts.
     
  19. daboarder

    daboarder Force One Commander
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    limited TO would probablye be very cheap. its really only the HD that you would be buying, especially on something like a jammer
     
  20. Riquende

    Riquende Well-Known Member

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    The cloak looks TO-ish certainly but I'm skeptical now that the Zulu Cobra will be an infiltrator. I might be wrong but I don't think the combo of infiltration, TO camo and a B4 gun exists in the game at present.