How does SWF work?

AntipodeanBolt · 16 Ene 2022

Varg K1 MMR is able to go hunting Arm pieces. Especially the Marut. I had a game with Varg where there were a few buildings with objectives nearby. The Varg were able to just jump between the two once the ARO pieces were down.

Urobros · 18 Ene 2022

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Well, as I said, you don't fight those guys with Vargar. You fight them either with your Core and the Kahru in it or you link them with two wildcards, including your Kahru FB, to take down this ARO piece and then you send your Vargar go hunting while keeping in mind that you still need your Karhu to be elsewhere. Thanks to NCO, you have quite a good amount of orders in your main group to do things.
Personally, I don't use them to do amazing things. I don't think they are fit for this if you play against a good player (while they are sure to do amazing things against newcomers). They are just fit to kill one or two SK, swipe the mines around, take the objective and retreat their in the heights or back while putting some mines during their retreat. They are good at ARO duty for secondary fire lanes and keeping in check a part of your DZ too. And they are good Haris killers.

So, yeah, no grand things, but things that do give me an edge in the long run and their good vertical mobility is why they can do this effectively. And TBH, anyone putting their big AROs in LoF against SWF is asking to get those guys dead. I don't see Kahru and ORCs FB loosing FtF often enough so that my opponents start to disrespect their firepower.

And you were asking for lists, so here are some I know I can make them work (played and won with them against players with a good level) :
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GROUP 1 10
NØKK (Minelayer) Combi Rifle, Light Shotgun, Shock Mines / Pistol, CC Weapon. (0.5 | 27)
NØKK (Minelayer) Combi Rifle, Light Shotgun, Shock Mines / Pistol, CC Weapon. (0.5 | 27)
VARG (Minelayer) K1 Marksman Rifle, Shock Mines / Pistol, CC Weapon. (0.5 | 30)
VARG (Forward Observer) Heavy Rocket Launcher, Light Shotgun, Flash Pulse / Pistol, CC Weapon. (1.5 | 25)
VARG (Triangulated Fire, Sensor) Combi Rifle, Heavy Flamethrower, WildParrot / Pistol, CC Weapon. (0 | 28)
FUSILIER (Lieutenant) Combi Rifle / Pistol, CC Weapon. (0 | 10)
FUSILIER Combi Rifle / Pistol, CC Weapon. (0 | 10)
ORC Feuerbach / Pistol, CC Weapon. (1.5 | 38)
QUINN Shock Marksman Rifle, Flash Pulse / Pistol, CC Weapon. (0 | 23)
FUSILIER (Paramedic) Combi Rifle ( | MediKit) / Pistol, CC Weapon. (0 | 12)
GROUP 2 4 1
NØKK (Forward Observer) Boarding Shotgun, Panzerfaust, Flash Pulse / Pistol, CC Weapon. (0 | 25)
PEACEMAKER Heavy Shotgun / PARA CC Weapon(-3). (0 | 20)
AUXBOT_3 Heavy Flamethrower / PARA CC Weapon(-3). (0 | 4)
WARCOR (360º Visor) Flash Pulse ( ) / Stun Pistol, PARA CC Weapon(-3). (0 | 3)
FUGAZI DRONBOT Flash Pulse / PARA CC Weapon(-3). (0 | 7)
MACHINIST Combi Rifle, D-Charges ( | GizmoKit) / Pistol, CC Weapon. (0 | 15)
4.5 SWC | 300 Points
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Vargar 2.0
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GROUP 1 10
VARG (Minelayer) K1 Marksman Rifle, Shock Mines / Pistol, CC Weapon. (0.5 | 30)
VARG (Forward Observer) Heavy Rocket Launcher, Light Shotgun, Flash Pulse / Pistol, CC Weapon. (1.5 | 25)
VARG (Triangulated Fire, Sensor) Combi Rifle, Heavy Flamethrower, WildParrot / Pistol, CC Weapon. (0 | 28)
FUSILIER (Lieutenant) Combi Rifle / Pistol, CC Weapon. (0 | 10)
FUSILIER Combi Rifle / Pistol, CC Weapon. (0 | 10)
FUSILIER (Paramedic) Combi Rifle ( | MediKit) / Pistol, CC Weapon. (0 | 12)
ORC Feuerbach / Pistol, CC Weapon. (1.5 | 38)
KARHU Feuerbach(+1B), AP Mines / Pistol, CC Weapon. (1.5 | 35)
FUGAZI DRONBOT Flash Pulse / PARA CC Weapon(-3). (0 | 7)
FUGAZI DRONBOT Flash Pulse / PARA CC Weapon(-3). (0 | 7)
GROUP 2 4 1
PALBOT PARA CC Weapon(-3). (0 | 3)
TRAUMA-DOC Combi Rifle / Pistol, CC Weapon. (0 | 14)
BULLETEER Spitfire / PARA CC Weapon(-3). (1 | 23)
BEASTHUNTER FTO (Minelayer) Heavy Flamethrower, Panzerfaust, AP Mines / Pistol, DA CC Weapon. (0 | 9)
KARHU (Engineer, Deactivator) MULTI Rifle, Blitzen, D-Charges ( | GizmoKit) / Pistol, CC Weapon. (0 | 29)
PEACEMAKER Heavy Shotgun / PARA CC Weapon(-3). (0 | 20)
AUXBOT_3 Heavy Flamethrower / PARA CC Weapon(-3). (0 | 4)
6 SWC | 300 Points
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But remember : they aren't meant to fight against big ARO pieces in their good range band (just like Black Friar, in fact). But they are good at punish mistakes. And if you can't use them during Turn 1, it's OK. They are still good in turns 2 and 3.
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Thanks!! I see y problem, probably I'm too confortable with a kind of Winterforce list and I have to struggle to find other options. Maybe my local meta has to much influence because isn't commun to see too many ARO these days. You have too many cheap and expendable ARO and only a few with reliable ARO with MSV. I really like the quantity of nokkens you put in the first one. Yes, we were talking about vargars, but what I like at most were the nokken :)

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